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Germany, for Decades a Pacifist Power, Faces the Need to Play a Military Role
New York Times ^ | January 5, 2013 | NICHOLAS KULISH

Posted on 01/05/2013 11:24:09 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

When Chancellor Angela Merkel hosted a recent reception for military families, she greeted parents, wives and children whose loved ones were spending their holidays in Afghanistan, Lebanon, Kosovo and off the Horn of Africa. German deployments overseas, Ms. Merkel said, “will soon encompass the entire globe.”

On that same wintry afternoon, members of Parliament debated whether to add to the nearly 6,000 German troops currently serving abroad by sending up to 400 soldiers to Turkey, where they would operate two Patriot missile batteries to help protect their NATO ally from a potential escalation of the civil war across the border in Syria.

“For decades, we Germans have benefited from the fact that our partners gave us the feeling of reliable security,” Thomas de Maizière, Germany’s defense minister, said during the debate last month. “Now we are in a position and have the duty, even, to make our impact felt.”

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1 posted on 01/05/2013 11:24:15 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Germany needs to make a priority of ridding itself of Islamic inluences.


2 posted on 01/05/2013 11:27:38 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Nazi Eurabia needs to be out there and protect muslims.

Nothing new.


3 posted on 01/05/2013 11:27:59 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Morgen die ganze Welt...


4 posted on 01/05/2013 11:27:59 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
First German Artillery in Afghanistan
5 posted on 01/05/2013 11:29:25 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Economic oppression of Germany due to the Treaty of Versailles is what gave rise to Hitler and the Third Reich.

What horror will the economic oppression of Germany by the European Union give rise to?

6 posted on 01/05/2013 11:30:40 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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To: Jim Noble

Ja. This is far more of a want than a need.


7 posted on 01/05/2013 12:16:31 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

About Time Germany stepped up to the plate and started to use its military power. For too long the US and UK have been the policemen of the world. We need to let others have a hand. Same goes for Russia, France and Japan.


8 posted on 01/05/2013 12:20:53 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

No, this is not something you would want, in any of the cases you cited. The US and UK have been about keeping the peace. Such powers as they would prefer war and conquest, and they are not our friends (never mind having influenced our own society negatively).


9 posted on 01/05/2013 12:25:18 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Are you saying Germany, France, Russia and Japan want war and conquest?


10 posted on 01/05/2013 12:31:43 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What exactly is a pacifist power?


11 posted on 01/05/2013 12:32:02 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Fiji Hill

Do you regard the phrases “would prefer” and “want” to be synonymous? I know what I said.


12 posted on 01/05/2013 12:34:19 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: The_Media_never_lie
It’s an empire that is as pacifist as the USSR was freedom-loving.

Even George Washington knew that there could be no such thing as a pacifist foreign policy.
Among the many interesting objects which will engage your attention, that of providing for the common defense will merit particular regard. To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.

A free people ought not only to be armed but disciplined; to which end, a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent on others for essential, particularly for military supplies.
Feigning pacifism, therefore, is a remarkable sign of belligerence.
13 posted on 01/05/2013 12:39:09 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
they are not our friends
Hate to burst your bubble...
German Americans (German: Deutschamerikaner) are citizens of the United States of German ancestry. They comprise about 50 million people,[1] making them the largest ancestry group ahead of Irish Americans, African Americans and English Americans.
14 posted on 01/05/2013 12:40:11 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Fourth Reich?


15 posted on 01/05/2013 12:40:27 PM PST by EEGator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

History ALWAYS repeats. And inviting it with Germany is a REALLY freaking bad idea for Europe. Or anyone else.

I do not see a resurgent NAZI Rich (thank God). But there will be hell to pay. And it will be bloody.

Same can be said for China and Japan. They aren’t sudden pacifists, though they may look it.


16 posted on 01/05/2013 12:43:19 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds like feigning pacifism is a pretty effective strategy to get another power to pay for their defense.


17 posted on 01/05/2013 12:50:21 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

We’ve had “Deutschamerikaner” for two world wars, just like we have had people descended from other nations whose countries of origin have been our enemy during those wars. Deutschamerikaner in large numbers even date back to Benjamin Franklin’s time; the man once thought that Pennsylvania was going to consist of a German-speaking majority, hence his creation of the Philadelphische Zeitung at one time. Obviously I was not talking about them.

BTW, citing Wikipedia will get one into trouble, never mind the US Census Bureau (who has been responsible for the redistricting that pushed conservatives out of the House and Senate).


18 posted on 01/05/2013 12:51:24 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

OK, so are you saying Germany, France, Russia and Japan would prefer war and conquest?


19 posted on 01/05/2013 12:52:04 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It’s worked since the beginning of the Cold War.


20 posted on 01/05/2013 12:52:24 PM PST by Olog-hai
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