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Bold Action to Protect the Second Amendment
12/30/12 | ez

Posted on 12/30/2012 5:41:02 AM PST by ez

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I will be on the phones Monday morning calling my Rep and suggesting these solutions. Will you join me?
1 posted on 12/30/2012 5:41:06 AM PST by ez
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To: ez

Don’t know why I put an apostrophe in phone’s. Be merciful, humblegunner.


2 posted on 12/30/2012 5:46:56 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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You just finished reading, “Unintended Consequences,” didn’t you?


3 posted on 12/30/2012 5:48:06 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: ez
YOU BET!!!


4 posted on 12/30/2012 5:49:07 AM PST by yoe
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All federal acts, laws, orders, rules or regulations regarding firearms are a violation of the 2nd amendment!
5 posted on 12/30/2012 5:49:17 AM PST by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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A start ~ a return to the full scope of 'keep and bear arms' as it was understood in late medieval times might be wise ~ that's in your first paragraph lest you missed it.

In days of old when knights were bold and firearms weren't invented they had to show up at least once a year to have their weapons inspected ~ that included whatever armor you had, your horse, your horseshoes, your personal armorer and iron smith, men at arms ~ if any ~ and swords, picks, axes, knives, truncheons, trebochets, and, possibly even a CANNON ~ such things being the personal possessions of a man who had 'the right to keep and bear arms'.

Those without that right were riffraff with no right to have any of those things. In fact they couldn't even go to a king's court to complain about an issue ~ everything went up through the lords and nobles.

Point being, 'the right to keep and bear arms' turns every American into a noble with every privilege nobles ever had including the right to take civil disputes to the government's courts.

I"m willing to show up at a militia meeting once a year to keep it all!

6 posted on 12/30/2012 5:49:34 AM PST by muawiyah
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I'd love to call your Rep. Unfortunately, MY Rep is the insufferably effete ex-Goldman a**hole Jim Himes who recently said that TX Gov. Rick Perry has "blood on his hands" because he supported the Second Amendment.

I already called Himes. Considering how the conversation went, I don't think they want to hear from me again.

7 posted on 12/30/2012 5:52:03 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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Maybe ~ maybe not. We are all members of the militia, and there are obligations associated with that. Even if all you have is a large pointed meat cutting knife, that's an arm you might need to show your local militia captain.

The militia can self-organize. I was thinking that one item we'd like for folks to have at any militia meeting is a DD214 ~ that way we can use veterans instantly to give us a military bearing and structure ~ rank and all.

All others then fit in that structure with our vets leading battalions, companies, platoons, squads and fire (or other) teams.

8 posted on 12/30/2012 5:53:02 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: RandallFlagg

When we start to see events such as those portrayed, we will know. Until then, all is sound and fury, signifying nothing.


9 posted on 12/30/2012 5:54:06 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: RandallFlagg

Looking it up now.


10 posted on 12/30/2012 5:56:55 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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I think your take is wrong.

In fact, we have been advancing on the 2nd amendment issue, particularly on the state level. Concealed carry, open carry, permitless carry, laws to carry in places formerly forbidden.

Look at the reaction to Sandy Hook. People snapping up guns, teachers getting gun training, jurisdictions wanting to arm teachers, etc. and so on.

So what I’m saying is that this isn’t steady encroachment, this is a desperate grab for power, backed up with media hysteria. Meaning that, yes we must fight it, but fight it correctly. Desperate acts of putting it all on the line come with a risk that if you fail, you take many, many steps back in the process.

An all out definitive effort will break their backs and drive them back to their holes, creating a vacuum that we can exploit. Right now hit them with everything we got, get down in the mud, diffuse, defer, distract, delay, and bury, but also be prepared to make hay on the other side of this.

Main thing is not to get the cart before the horse and stop their current effort cold, then move ahead.


11 posted on 12/30/2012 6:02:51 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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Removing the GCA of 1968 would be a good idea, followed by a repeal of the NFA of 1934. The former is a violation of the 2nd Amendment, and the latter is a violation of the 2nd and 14th Amendment (it effectively restricts legal machine gun ownership to the rich.)


12 posted on 12/30/2012 6:05:11 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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It is vital to not just fight a defensive action, nor only fight back on one front. Victory is achieved if you can open a second important front against your enemy, where they are not prepared with a defense.

In this case, conservatives did try a counterattack, my calling for reform in mental health care. But this was a weak second front. Instead, they should mount a major attack in favor of expediting the death penalty.

Start with three demands:

1) Federal judges can no longer overturn a state death penalty on a technicality or information not germane to that trial, only by exoneration, proof of innocence. States will be considered “expert” in the means they use to carry out the death penalty, so this means of execution is no longer grounds for appeal.

2) All federal death penalty appeals advance to the front of the federal docket, and delays in the proceedings are limited to one month each for the defense, the prosecution, and at the judge’s discretion.

3) Appeals will be consolidated into a single group, unless an appeal is based on exculpatory (clearing of guilt) evidence.

The bottom line to this is that ending the death penalty is, like gun control, a major priority of the leftists, as well as having considerable overlap with violent gun crime. So opening a “second front” right now would force them to divert resources *away* from gun control to prevent a streamlined death penalty executing murderers in a year or two, instead of a decade or more.


13 posted on 12/30/2012 6:08:59 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Free Vulcan

14 posted on 12/30/2012 6:09:04 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: ez

There’s a part in the book where the lead character, Henry Bowman, makes an, “If I were GHW Bush, I would say this,” speech at a gun range get-together.
It was during Bush’s re-election.
Basically, it was about how gun rights have been eroded, how government seems to want to create criminals, how abuses by the BATF are shameful.
And that he would eliminate NFA 1934, GCA 1968, and restore what we never should have lost.


15 posted on 12/30/2012 6:14:41 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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all that may be true but after serving in the army and taking orders from A$$h0!e$ I won't do it again ... take that how every you want!
16 posted on 12/30/2012 6:19:45 AM PST by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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Basically, it was about how gun rights have been eroded, how government seems to want to create criminals, how abuses by the BATF are shameful.

My attitude is that any man too dangerous to own a gun is a man too dangerous to walk free. I have no problem with felons owning weapons because a huge proportion of felons are non violent offenders.

A violent offender will be violent whether he has a gun or not. About a year ago a local cop was run down and killed by two recent parolees who were robbing a bank. If a felon wants to get a gun he'll get one anyway as the guy who ambushed firemen on Christmas did.
17 posted on 12/30/2012 6:31:35 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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I was amazed to learn in my state I could not carry a loaded .22 in my car!!!

What kind of state do you live in?

We can carry whatever we want openly in NC, and concealed with a shall-issue CCW.

18 posted on 12/30/2012 6:38:11 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: RandallFlagg; ez

ez may not have, but I started and finished in 2 days....mind prevoking to say the least.

Should be suggested reading to all 2nd Amendment “culture” folks.

Passed along to my close associates.


19 posted on 12/30/2012 6:38:15 AM PST by eartick
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Just like the Federal government requires mandatory sex education training, we must mandate firearms training in elementary schools. This would go a long way towards reducing the fear currently exhibited by the populace. It’s all about that fear.


20 posted on 12/30/2012 6:38:21 AM PST by Real Cynic No More
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