Posted on 12/28/2012 2:00:21 PM PST by SMGFan
The laws do vary state by state, but usually, even where it is legal to record someone without their consent, it still requires the consent of at least one party being recorded. So, if we have a phone conversation, I can record the call, because I consent to the recording, even if you don’t.
That doesn’t mean you can go place a bug in someone else’s home (or phone, or computer) without their consent, since you would not be a party to what was being recorded, so you could not provide the necessary one party consent.
Maybe she just had enough evidence to get the protection order without bring up the wiretapping and confusing the issue, but who knows?
Could also be that she didn’t bring up wiretapping because she loves her parents despite them being psychos. She didn’t need/want them thrown in jail or face other legal consequences.
Then you better tell the cell phone companies with gps that what they’re doing is illegal. We had one that sent out texts randomly stating the account had family tracking. Illegal, not.
You surely signed a contract with the company that authorizes them to do that, so it’s probably not illegal. However, if you use their technology to electronically monitor someone without their consent, especially if you aren’t even involved in their conversation, then you would probably be doing something illegal.
I just checked, and Ohio is a “one party consent” state. So, the parents could record her calls, Skype conversations, etc, ONLY if the parents were a party to those communications. Monitoring beyond that, without her consent, was illegal.
Nope, called them up and had them add it. I’m sure the ramdom texts every 2-3 weeks covers your one party consent. You don’t like the parents having the family plan like most everyone who has plans then buy her a phone yourself.
“Nope, called them up and had them add it.”
In other words, you consented for that service to be added to your plan. Legally, that’s the same thing as signing an amendment to your contract, since the phone companies have to get recorded verbal consent to add services. If they don’t, you don’t legally have to pay for them.
“I’m sure the ramdom texts every 2-3 weeks covers your one party consent.”
One party consent is derived from the instance of communication that is being recorded. If you had a phone call or text communication with someone 2 or 3 weeks ago, in a one party consent state, you could have recorded that conversation, but it doesn’t give you any permission to continue to record conversations that person has that do not involve you.
“You don’t like the parents having the family plan like most everyone who has plans then buy her a phone yourself.”
I don’t care about family plans, you are the one who brought them up. I was commenting about the parents wiretapping their daughter’s phone and electronic communications illegally. I don’t think the two things are really very related at all, unless you think most parents are somehow using the family plan to commit wiretapping?
you and I are singing the same song
Yeah. I made the mistake of thinking that I wasn’t marrying my in-laws. Did not turn out well in the long run....but hey sometimes love is blind and stupid.
since you start with “I had....” I am assuming that you left that bit of hell.
interesting....I have to admit I thought I was going to get heaily flamed for my comments but everything so far has truly been thoughtful....and yours even made me chuckle.
You can have all the personal privacy rights you wish but not on my dime. If you want my money then you play by my rules. If you work for me then I will search your locker; your car parked in my lot, and i will review your web usage and phone logs during the time i paid you for. If you are my kid and dependent on my support, regardless of age even past 18, then you play by my rules. If you dont like my rules then quit working for me or depending on me and you can have all the privacy you desire.
Its not a hard concept. If you wish to live your own life free from interference then free yourself from dependence on others. Its a very conservative concept.
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Not really. Hollywood has a long history of actors "divorcing" their parents.
Just like a lot of abused women who stay in the home because they are ‘happy’ to take their husband’s money huh?
Can’t wait for the next backhand or the next 2 hours of berating and verbal assault because they just love it so very much.
And in court...
“Your honor, I have the RIGHT, I am ENTITLED to mentally torture the hell out of my wife (daughter) because I pay her nail salon visits (college tuition) And if she don’t like it she can GTFO.”
Oh yea...That would work.
Do some of you people think before posting or is it just a case of pure emotionalism based on a need to look authoritative?
Didn’t answer the question? I’ll tell you why. Basic Psych 101. Never reinforce delusions.
You seem to be operating under the philosophy that a parent ‘owns’ the life of n adult child because they provide X.
The legal, documentable and constitutional fact is that one person cannot dictate squat to another adult for all the tea in China. Whether that person is a parent or not. Slavery in ALL forms has been not so recently outlawed.
Now if you ‘feel’ that a parent has the ‘right’ to do so, and to be consistent, I fail to see how you could possibly have a problem with verbally abusing a wife you support, or verbally abusing an old person you care for.
When your wife walks in, why should you not tell her to her face you think she’s a (insert whatever slam here) and that you bugged her phone to make sure she wasn’t seeing a friend you disapprove of.
Then tell her if she doesn’t like it, to go to hell. Then cut her off. Because it’s your money.] Remember Money spent means you have the right to do anything you want right?
Then Please, I BEG you. Call me/email and tell me when the court date happens as I want more than anything to be in the courtroom when her lawyer takes you for everything you own and the judge throws you in jail for mental cruelty.
Because you would certainly IMO deserve both.
PS, don’t drop the soap.
Now, let’s be consistent here.
Well, to join the club, I’ll admit that I too married into the family from hell. And they exhibited the very same behavior a lot of people on this thread do. Domineering control freaks that money meant everything.
My wife’s real parents had died, but her family ‘took control’ of her life in every aspect you can imagine. When we met, it did not take long to realize what was up. And rather I stuck it out. And it was not easy.
What I learned over of our life together would make people puke. The things that girl endured were the stuff of Hollywood horror. And she quite literally had the scars to prove it.
The story did not have a happy ending here either, but for a different reason. I did manage to break her away from the hell she endured, And in her final years, she knew that she had been controlled and she had been used as a whipping post.
She died of liver cancer at 28. But she died free.
And of course, they blamed me for ‘giving her cancer’ and ‘killing her’. And trust me, you do NOT want to know what happened at the funeral. But I will say they kept up the control freak bs.
So when I see this merry band of control freaks on these threads, it gives me flashbacks. And I literally pray for any children they may come in contact with. Because I too lived in technicolor what the mentality leads to.
Edit typo...29
The parents wanted the money from her, not the school.
The coverage is optional. I pay for it for my son who is 24. It’s actually the only thing I like about Obamacare. I am not required to pay for it and it isn’t free.
As a hobby, I usually look over the post histories of people I end up in flamewars with, mostly after the fact. And it has yet to fail that I find one that would not be more at home on a moderate and even liberal site than a conservative one.
That’s not to imply I think I’m “Uberconservativeman!” Hero of the people!” just that I’ve given serious thought to why I believe the things I do and that they square with my overall philosophy. Which ends up being traditionally conservative.
How can a conservative, by ANY accepted political definition of the term think things discussed on this thread are in keeping with personal rights while simultaneously demanding those rights be ignored over money?
Same with the ‘business owners’ I fought with that were against a border fence as it would hurt their business.
Same with ‘conservatives who simultaneously claim conservatism and say a mandated HPV vaccine for kids is in keeping with that philosophy.
Same with Conservatives trashing a political candidates whose policies they support, but reject because of her name and ‘imply’ she ‘does things for money’.
Same with Conservatives who call those they disagree with ‘traitors to their country’ for refusing to campaign mightily for a documented liberal.
One of the only reasons I still post on political sites is that stupidity cannot be allowed to go unchallenged. But it’s a losing proposition. Because in the last year or two, stupidity as above is worn as a badge of honor. These people are actually proud of their positions and declare them right good and just in the face of any and all proof to the contrary.
On another thread this morning I said it’s about time to say to hell with it, declare the “Republic f norm” and wash my hands of it all.
I am really getting closer to doing just that.
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