Stopping the spread of deadly assault weapons--summary of Feinstein Bill, incl. registry requirement

United States Senate ^ | 12/27/2012 | Dianne Feinstein

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Tell you what... you believe what you want to believe, and I'll believe what I want to believe.

Deal?

[Las Vegas Ron]

I just clicked your link, I was referring to California in my post that you responded to, not Las Vegas.

Nevada is one of the best States for gun laws, Clark Co, (Las Vegas) is the only County that requires hand gun registration.

[DBrow]

Stopping sale or transfer takes the value - my investment- out of these objects.

It’s a taking without compensation, since I can’t sell.

[MrB]

I don’t think they value the rule of law as much as your post attributes to them...

If they’ll violate the 2nd, why not the 4th or 5th?

[JGT]

I didn't mean to offend, afterall we are on the same side.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Run along and so something in the face of tyranny.

[Eleutheria5]

Secret workshops. Start making them. Now.

[JGT]

That’s very mature and a great insight to this very important moment in our Republic’s history. Keep up the good fight.

[Eleutheria5]

Change the mood, and people will stop buying voluntarily. That’s how you deal effectively with a “powder keg”. Ban guns, and you increase the mood. American Spring is coming. Buy my book: http://www.amazon.com/United-America-2014-Ben-Maxwell/dp/1424152739/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356645090&sr=8-1&keywords=united+america%3A+2014
I need the cash, and besides, I always wanted to war profiteer.

[Alaska Wolf]

Stopping the spread of deadly assault weapons

Maybe Diane and her commie cohorts can invent a condom to stop the spread.

[isom35]

here’s a lady that would be glad to help:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069952/

[familyop]

The following part was interesting, too. Remember that politicians sponsoring or trying to pass such bills have constituents demanding those kinds of laws. Thoroughly consider the demographics of such constituents. Who are they?

"Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:

Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law;
and Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration."

[Purrcival]

OK, I know I’ll be flamed, but here goes...

First, a disclaimer: I am not a gun owner, nor am I a member of the NRA. I *AM* a conservative. I *do* support the Second Amendment. I just didn’t grow up in a family that owned guns or did any hunting. The only guns I have ever fired in my life are cap guns, squirt guns, and a BB gun once at some of those fake duck targets at a county fair when I was about 8.

That being said, I am asking a sincere question: What is the problem with banning assault weapons? Why would anyone need them? I’m looking to the gun owners and those who really understand the Second Amendment to educate me, please.

[2ndDivisionVet]

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts

[Purrcival]

What good can a hand gun do against an army? Not much. And I do understand that if a law is passed, only the law-abiding will comply. I think you’ve answered my questions. Thanks.

[KTM rider]

real combat assault rifles are mandated by the second amendment. They are necessary to defend the general populace against a tyrannical government

the government should fear the public, Fienstein and Obamster should be looking over their shoulder and checking their nasty gargoyle faces for red lazer dots constantly because of the way they are acting

the reason big government fears AR's is because they know this

[Democrat_media]

To: Frankenfeinstein, Obama , and the rest of You evil, communist/democrats,

If you want take our guns and with it our freedom and rights then you will have to take them by force.

We are here in Louisiana, come and take them,

the Men of Louisiana

[Alaska Wolf]

What is the problem with banning assault weapons?

You have to understand that a so-called "assault weapon" is no different operationally than other semiautomatic firearms. The so-called "assault weapon" isn't inherently any more lethal than a semiautomatic Browning .30-06 or .45 Glock .

[DBrow]

No flames here.

Well for one thing “assault weapon” is a name Congress made up and applied to one of the most popular target rifles (think National Match course and Camp Perry). Very common plinking guns as well. People own something like 18 million of them, and hundreds of millions of mags for them.

Assault weapon is a label only, it has nothing to do with reality.

I looked at 2010 stats and found that there were 358 or so murders from rifles of all sorts, which means that the “assault weapons” are NOT being used to spray death upon the hapless innocents as the government suggests is happening. The same year there were over 1700 stabbings, fo a little perspective.

Other than that, there have been times when Americans, civilians, had to engage multiple targets. Let’s say you go outside and find that four gangbangers, three with baseball bats, are attacking your kid. A couple 20 round mags is completely appropriate because you are not going to land effective stopping shots on all three with a six-round revolver or 10 round 9mm.

I also believe that these are appropriate anti-tyrrany devices (if they weren’t the government would not lie about them). If you counter with “the government has tanks, F15s and nukes”, I’d have to concede- after all we are winning in Afghanistan and Iraq, we won in Nam and Korea and Somalia and Haiti with the tanks, planes and nukes. I don’t think the USG could stand up to a civilian force of a million, in other words.

[21twelve]

Many years ago I used to think the way you do about the use of firearms for hunting and self-defense. But not now. The 2nd Amendment may in part be about hunting, and self defense (Indians, etc.) - but it was, and is, about having the means to resist a tyrannical government. As Mark Levin said, it is not “Gun Control”, it is “Citizen Control”.

Here are two quotes from Thomas Jefferson:

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” —

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”

And read the link about the “handgun against an Army” - it is good.