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Assault weapon owners cite diverse reasons for owning the guns
Rapid City Journal ^ | 22 dec 2012 | Aaron Orlowski

Posted on 12/22/2012 11:32:10 AM PST by rellimpank

In the wake of the deadly Connecticut school shooting last week, one question has repeatedly surfaced in the Black Hills and across much of the country: Why would anyone want to own an assault weapon?

One thing is clear — the high-powered rifles capable of shooting multiple rounds in a hurry are in high demand. After President Barack Obama said this week he would push to renew a ban on purchasing the rifles, local gun-shop owners said the weapons have been flying off their shelves.

Meanwhile, gun owners in Rapid City cite diverse reasons for purchasing the weapons. Some say they are durable and accurate; a few see them as a financial investment or a way to exercise their constitutional rights; while others point to their value in self-protection or in the fun of target shooting.

Whatever the reason, assault-rifle owners are committed to the weapon.

"There is something kind of zen-like in setting up a bench and trying to put

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; rkba; secondamendment
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To: rellimpank

What a deceitfully written piece.

the writer certainly has read “The Journalist’s Guide to
Gun Violence Coverage’


81 posted on 12/22/2012 2:40:51 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: lurk

And my wife keeps asking why those “bricks” keep appearing in her grocery cart at Wal*Mart... ‘-)


82 posted on 12/22/2012 2:42:09 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Pontiac
It only needs for some sheet metal worker to come up with an after market high capacity magazine.

I'd wager that with a hacksaw, a propane torch, some silver solder, and some scrap sheetmetal for gusseting you could graft a couple of mags together and have it work reliably.

83 posted on 12/22/2012 2:42:37 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: LibWhacker
Heck, I can't promise it won't turn tyrannical in the next four! The little pipsqueak dipsh!t at the wheel is certainly in the process of turning it in that direction as we speak.

A little late for that. The HHS mandate that employers violate deeply-held religious beliefs to pay for contraception and abortion so that Sandra Fluke and her clones don't have to pay for their own entertainment crossed that line. That command was evil, tyrannical, and unconstitutional.

84 posted on 12/22/2012 2:43:20 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: rellimpank
I got your assault weapon right here.


85 posted on 12/22/2012 2:44:00 PM PST by Disambiguator (America chose...poorly.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You cannot prevent evil. You can only defend against it.


86 posted on 12/22/2012 2:46:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (_The goal of Socialism is Communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Scoutmaster
I’ve heard several reports - and seen a timeline - setting the time from Lanza’s entry to suicide as ten minutes.

Did he off himself when he ran out of ammo for the AR?

87 posted on 12/22/2012 2:46:25 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You cannot prevent evil. You can only defend against it.


88 posted on 12/22/2012 2:46:42 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The goal of Socialism is Communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You cannot prevent evil. You can only defend against it.


89 posted on 12/22/2012 2:48:11 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of Socialism is Communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: buwaya; tacticalogic
Unless the people you’re shooting at are able to shoot back, taking an extra few seconds to change mags doesn’t seem like it’s going to change the outcome much.

If for instance magazines are limited to 10 rounds that should reduce the rate of aimed fire by maybe 50%. It is easy to shoot at least 5 rounds in the time it takes to change a magazine.

There are two other factors to consider; weight and space.

When considering weight each extra empty magazine may cost you the weight of 5 extra rounds you can carry.

When considering space each extra magazine could cost you 10 or twenty rounds. I say this because the shooter in the case in question was wearing tactical vest designed specifically for carrying magazines. If you have a ten round magazine occupying the space that a 20 or 30 round magazine would have occupied you are loosing significant ammunition.

But in reality limiting the magazine capacity would simply force a strategy change for a mass murderer. He would either choose another weapon or method of killing.

90 posted on 12/22/2012 2:48:41 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You cannot prevent evil. You can only defend against it.


91 posted on 12/22/2012 2:49:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: hiredhand
"...ahead..."

That's one word for it...

92 posted on 12/22/2012 2:51:40 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Pontiac

And mags can be taped together, butt-to-butt.


93 posted on 12/22/2012 2:55:28 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Obadiah
It’s our Constitutional right and I DO NOT have to explain myself to the left-wing fascists!

Absolutely correct! It is the "Bill of Rights" not the bill of needs and they were granted by our Creator not by some pettifogging bureaucrat in DC.

Regards,
GtG
μολὼν λαβέ

94 posted on 12/22/2012 2:58:43 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I sincerely expect him to die of sodium poisoning, as he is notorious for eating food so salty that most other people find it to be inedible. His doctors probably told him this was unwise, so his response was to try and limit it for everyone else.


95 posted on 12/22/2012 3:01:03 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: tacticalogic
I haven't read anything to suggest that. I need to look for a particularly detailed timeline that I've seen (but neglected to bookmark).

I don't think he shot himself until the police arrived, but don't quote me.

96 posted on 12/22/2012 3:35:16 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Noumenon

No doubt!!!


97 posted on 12/22/2012 3:35:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: JW1949
Fully automatic weapons are already banned without an FFL....

Not so, you need $200 for the tax stamp and a BATF Form 4 and you are good to go. You may buy short barreled rifles and shotguns, suppressors, and fully automatic weapons manufactured before 1968 along with "any other weapon" which are a relative bargain at $5 for the tax stamp.

Ordinarily you need a mug shot, a set of fingerprints, and a sign-off from the "chief law enforcement officer" of your county or parish to successfully process a Form 4. You can avoid all that if you form a trust (an LLC works too but isn't as discreet) to hold your Class III collection with yourself as the trustee.

You may now buy and store Class III items and use them within the restrictions established by the BATF but you may only buy and sell through Class III Federal Firearms Licensed dealers within your state of residence. If you wish to purchase an item from an out of state dealer it must be transferred to a local Class III dealer before you can assume possession for your trust.

You may not allow anyone who is not listed on your trust documents access to your Class III items. They may look but not touch and most assuredly they may not fire your goodies. Lastly, you need to make "special arrangements" if you intend to cross your state line with your "collectibles".

It's a pain to get started but once you have the trust in place all it takes is patience and money and you can "rock and roll".

Regards,
GtG

PS If you buy a short barreled, fully automatic rifle fitted with a suppressor you will need to file three Form 4s and submit three certified checks for $200 each. Each Class III item needs it's own paperwork. If ya wanna play, you gotta pay...

98 posted on 12/22/2012 3:49:14 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: rellimpank

Various wordings of the Second Amendment were tried during its development. The end result *purposefully* leaves out any enumeration of reasons why an individual has the right to keep and bear Arms. Any reason *why* an individual may or may not keep and bear Arms, was left to the states and the people thereof, to settle among themselves.

The only enumeration in the Second Amendment focuses on what to do about a group of men under Arms - what is to happen when individuals who bear military grade Arms are in a group, and they *are* capable of exercising martial power. What *then,* was to become of that power?

The answer was, that both the states and the federal government would rely upon *the group* being formally mustered, well-regulated, well trained to Arms, well discplined, and answerable to civilian authority.

Both the states and the federal government sought unity of function and preparedness of the militia of each state. The state militiae should be “well trained to Arms” and be capable of, and mindful of, lawfully exercising martial power and respecting lawful civilian authority.

In the old days up to around WW-I times and for a while thereafter, there was a tradition of local militia drilling on the common, the town green, or the county fairgrounds. It gave people an opportunity to remain somewhat familiar with military duty; it helped to keep them from becoming too rusty. It demonstrated the proper practices and discipline *for all to see.*

It is a shame that most communities and counties and states got out of that practice.

All the uses of weapons, firearm or not, for non-military purposes, were left to be decided by the states and their people.

Again, there would be no condition within the Second Amendment, by which you do, or do not, have the right to keep and bear Arms; because, the Founding Fathers correctly anticipated that any such enumerated condition might be used as grounds for an individual to either be forced to bear Arms or be stripped of their Arms.


99 posted on 12/22/2012 3:59:12 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: rockrr

I’m curious. Where did we get this kid from? He’s delightful.


100 posted on 12/22/2012 4:01:42 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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