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Obama Says All Gun Buyers Should Face Checks
Wall Street Journal ^

Posted on 12/19/2012 10:31:49 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Obama Says All Gun Buyers Should Face Checks By JARED A. FAVOLE

WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama on Wednesday said all gun buyers should be subject to background checks, offering his most specific proposal in the wake of the shooting spree at a Connecticut school and setting up a potential fight with gun-rights advocates.

"This time words must lead to action," Mr. Obama said from the White House, where he also announced that Vice President Joe Biden would oversee an effort to get ideas for changing gun and mental-health laws to Congress. "The fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing."

Mr. Obama spoke five days after the shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., left 20 children and six adults dead. The shooting has prompted widespread calls for a look at the nation's gun and mental-health laws. The president acknowledged the call for quick change, speaking on a day when more funerals were planned for some of the victims.

Mr. Obama said he wanted Mr. Biden and his cabinet to get concrete ideas to him no later than January, "proposals that I then intend to push without delay." He urged Congress to vote on the measures once they arrive.

Mr. Biden could be essential to getting any changes to gun and mental-health laws through Congress, as he has decades of experience as a senator and often is Mr. Obama's go-to person when the president seeks to build support on Capitol Hill. Mr. Obama said he also chose Mr. Biden because he wrote a 1994 crime bill that led to a drop in violence.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; constrains; constraint; constraits; fastandfurious; guncontrol; gungrabbers; papersplease; secondamendment; transparency
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To: SES1066
If the percentage is what I think it is, what would this effort accomplish OTHER than adding to the government control and cost of the transaction?

That's the whole point -- building a national name list. A national registry of gun owners, of people to be rousted at 2 a.m. and subjected to an intrusive search (wreck the place! -- tear it apart!!) for firearms when they don't turn theirs in.

Door to door to door -- do it the hard way. No media. Just a mob of uniforms at every doorway, waving a "warrant" from a pet judge, for the admiralty-law "arrest" of any-and-all "John Doe" offending firearms, and their immediate civil forfeiture under pain of arrest for interfering with officers.

81 posted on 12/19/2012 1:40:32 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: TexasTransplant
Wish I had more $ to buy more now, but I’m tapped ...

Yeah, its real hard to replace all that stuff you lost in that boating accident.

82 posted on 12/19/2012 1:51:41 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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To: jimsin
http://audio.wrko.com/a/68393142/ann-coulter-on-the-shooting-spree-and-reaction.htm

Does this mean Coulter is finally back at work after her weeks-long three-way getaway with Mitt Romney and Grover Norquist?

83 posted on 12/19/2012 2:13:37 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: opentalk
with Obamacare the government will have access to all medical records...this could go be a slippery slope if they start using medical info beyond health care.

You must have missed the key quote.

"Health care is the keystone of the arch of Soviet power." -- V. I. Lenin.

Information-gathering and "medical confinement" are what healthcare is FOR, in Communist practice. That's exactly what Obama and his crowd will use it for.

Remember all the stories about Soviet "psychiatry" and its confinement and forcible drugging of dissidents. It was ubiquitous.

84 posted on 12/19/2012 2:18:05 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Sub-Driver

I say all purple-lipped, flap-eared, traitorous Communist presidential-wannabes should face impeachment.


85 posted on 12/19/2012 2:44:20 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: ozzymandus

If you buy a gun from a dealer, you already go through an FBI background check. Apparently, leftists, including Bill O’Reilly, don’t know this.


This only applies to those guns bought from a FFL dealer. It does not cover a private sale between two people inside a singular state. The fed doesn’t have jurisdiction here (if they did, it would already be law) as this falls under pure intra-state commerce. As long as the seller does not fall under the definition of a dealer in 18 USC 921a(11) and “engaged in the business” as defined in 18 USC 921a(21).

This is an attempt at getting around the “gunshot loophole” for personal transactions. I’d like to see what novel idea he has that gives him the personal authority to do such a thing under Article II of the Constitution.

Of course, after the raping the Constitution took with respect to the interstate commerce clause and it’s bounds (or lack thereof) with Obamacare, all bets are off. The several states need to understand that their autonomy, what’s left of it, would be totally stripped if Congress implements this and SCOTUS upholds.


86 posted on 12/19/2012 3:08:57 PM PST by cidrasm
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To: MrB

yes , that’s what I was referring to and you’re right, the party which helped them to get most of their rules passed is th eparty of lets reach out[sigh]


87 posted on 12/19/2012 3:35:11 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Sub-Driver

The background check requires Picture ID.

That’s Racist!


88 posted on 12/19/2012 3:50:24 PM PST by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: absalom01

yes you are right. they no likey private sales.

i was just saying it wouldn’t stop a dad or mom handing down a gun to their child because they aren’t selling it. as it stands in newtown case, it would not have changed a thing. he stole the guns from his mom. plus was rejected at a gun store from buying a gun himself.


89 posted on 12/19/2012 4:32:48 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 4Liberty

Voting is a right - bearing arms is a right. How about the same background check for both? It might be intimidating for some to present an ID for either one.


90 posted on 12/19/2012 5:45:41 PM PST by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: Sub-Driver

I say that all of Obama’s appointees, czars, advisors and recess appointment face open congressional hearings.

If I were still a reporter covering congressional hearings, I would wear asbestos clothes and jockstrap because of the heat from what would come out about these leftist, marxist, corrupt, crooked, anti-American bastards.

Many could NOT pass a basic security check. Period.


91 posted on 12/19/2012 6:52:05 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: laweeks

As long as the illegal uses your SS#, it’s okay.


92 posted on 12/19/2012 7:43:55 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Sub-Driver

Speaking of background checks, how about performing one on obama?


93 posted on 12/21/2012 1:39:53 AM PST by Smber (The smallest minority is the individual. Get the government off my back.)
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