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1 posted on 12/18/2012 9:39:47 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No doubt the Chinese have already stolen the technology.


2 posted on 12/18/2012 9:41:58 AM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good, since klinton and bathhouse barry gave all our technology to our enemies.


3 posted on 12/18/2012 9:42:29 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What say you, aviation experts and fighter pilots?


4 posted on 12/18/2012 9:43:59 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“This process can’t be jammed, confused, or eluded”

I’m sure that was said of radar, initially.

5 posted on 12/18/2012 9:44:29 AM PST by ryan71 (Water, food and ammo.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sounds like radar with photons instead of RF waves.
7 posted on 12/18/2012 9:48:12 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state." - Cornelius Tacitus, Roman Senator)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
but instead a quantum image gleaned through a string of photons that boomerang out and back, telling operators everything they've seen

At the level of description given, this is the same thing as radar.

8 posted on 12/18/2012 9:49:00 AM PST by FredZarguna (If there's one thing he has a lot of, it's a lack of humility.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Link from the article:

Unjammable aircraft detection using quantum mechanics

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Researchers from the University of Rochester in New York have demonstrated an aircraft detection system that is unjammable.

By using polarized photons to detect and image objects, any attempt to modify the photons will alter its quantum properties. The system can then detect the altered quantum state of the photons.

9 posted on 12/18/2012 9:49:00 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
can't be jammed, confused, or eluded and rather than get absorbed, reflected, or...???

Quantum entanglement is the only thing I can think of, since photons certainly CAN be absorbed, reflected and jammed. But entangled pairs would (conceivably, I'm no physicist) accurately report back regardless of what happened to their mates -- if you can tease the information out of them.

My question is WTH are they releasing this information and not locking those researchers up somewhere in the lab of their dreams?

17 posted on 12/18/2012 10:01:06 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Based on my limited layman's science: Photons are quantum sized light particles with no mass that behave both as particles and waves. As light they travel in straight trajectories unless influenced by a massive gravitational field (the "boomerang" remark in the article particularly caught my eye). And like radar, if they hit a reflective surface it seems to make sense they would bounce back at light speed and be detectable.

But I am not really sure why they could not be "absorbed" by a dark surface coating on whatever you're trying to protect from detection. No return ... no comparison of elements of the beam when it left, with what the same quantum nuggets look like when they get back.

This sounds like something that could work in a lab under very strictly controlled conditions but might be years away from functioning in the real world. In the meantime, if it screws up our stealth tech it screws up everybody else's as well.

20 posted on 12/18/2012 10:15:19 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Uses a laser. That makes it a bit difficult to cover larger areas of the sky. And, depending on the laser, it can be blocked by clouds, etc.

https://www.technologyreview.com/sites/default/files/images/Quantum%20imaging.png


28 posted on 12/18/2012 10:31:41 AM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And of course, metamaterials are just over the horizon!


31 posted on 12/18/2012 10:38:14 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

To give any credence to an article that proclaims this is “unjammable” is folly. Anything one man can envision, eventually can be realized by another man. It’s like saying you have discovered everything there is to know about this process and have foreseen anything the enemy can think of. It’s ego-maniacal at the minimum. I do understand, I think their preliminary basis for this, as it was posited some time back that photons could also be used for communication and their quantum state would make it known to everyone if it had been tampered with, or even an attempt was made at tampering. It is theoretically possible, but in reality, someone will eventually crack the code, so to speak.

It sounds like some researchers are creating their own PR to maintain some funding or to acquire a new source of funding.


32 posted on 12/18/2012 10:40:44 AM PST by krogers58
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I don’t see how this will work. The same process they rely on to detect changes in the photons should change the photons as well. How could they then tell if the properties changed before they tried to measure them, or because they tried to measure them?


41 posted on 12/18/2012 12:28:10 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...the photons supposedly report back with only the facts.

Just the facts, ma'am. Just the facts.

44 posted on 12/18/2012 1:38:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

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58 posted on 12/19/2012 5:01:32 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today; who can take your income & tax it all away..0Bama man can :)
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