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British academic: Ban party balloons (helium filled)
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Posted on 12/13/2012 5:58:00 AM PST by chessplayer

“The scarcity of helium is a really serious issue. I can imagine that in 50 years time our children will be saying, ‘I can’t believe they used such a precious material to fill balloons,’” said the doctor, Peter Wothers.

The non-renewable gas is a necessity in hospitals, where it is used to cool magnets in MRI scanners and mixed with oxygen to allow ill patients and newborn babies to breathe more easily.

Scientists have been unsuccessful in finding a sustainable way of making the gas artificially.

“If we keep using it for non-essential things like party balloons, where we’re just letting it float off into space, we could be in for some serious problems in around 30 to 50 years’ time. The gas is hugely valuable.”


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To: Gen.Blather
The more uses for something the cheaper and more available it gets.

Only if there is an available source for it. While greater demand creates a price support for the economic supply of a material, it has to be available for that to happen.

There are very few sources of Helium in the world.

21 posted on 12/13/2012 6:36:59 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: chessplayer
I have a family member that runs MRI equipment for a small, struggling hospital in a rural area. When they fall behind on their lease payments on the MRI equipment, the company refuses to refill the helium until they pay up.
22 posted on 12/13/2012 6:40:18 AM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: buffaloguy

“Why the world is running out of helium”

“A US law means supplies of the gas – a vital component of MRI scanners – are vanishing fast”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/why-the-world-is-running-out-of-helium-2059357.html

“Helium Supplies Endangered, Threatening Science And Technology”
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080102093943.htm


23 posted on 12/13/2012 6:41:30 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: USMCPOP

No, not really. True, tere is a limited amount on this planet. And it’s all still here except for the trivial amounts we’ve used in space craft.

As otheres have stated, there are helium wells and filtration systems for that found via natural gas wells (About 7%). The economics will drive other processes.

As an example, atmospheric liquidation at some point would be an economically viable means of recovery. The atmosphere is 0.00052% Helium... That’s a lot of Helium.

And to top it off, it’s the 2nd most common element in the universe behind hydrogen.

So it’ not serious. THe solar wind is lousey with it and if desparate enough an economic case for a space based capture system will be made.

THe guy’s whining.


24 posted on 12/13/2012 6:45:42 AM PST by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Lazamataz

Parties, too. Ban parties.

And happiness. Ban happiness.

People. Ban people.


By all means lets use it up so hospitals can no longer use MRI machines. A kids party balloon is a much more important use for it. And happiness is impossible without have a helium filled party balloon. sarc/


25 posted on 12/13/2012 6:46:49 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

I went to buy balloons for a birthday party and was told they (Safeway) no longer have them, because the US government controls all helium and is restricting supplies.
The clerk said it is just to complicated to buy the gas, so they stopped (at that store at least).


26 posted on 12/13/2012 6:56:17 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Freeport
for that found via natural gas wells (About 7%).

Are you trying to claim that 7% of natural gas wells have economically recoverable quantities of helium? If I understood that correctly, please provide some more information.

The atmosphere is 0.00052% Helium... That’s a lot of Helium.

And most of that, is in the far upper atmosphere called the heterosphere, about 100 kilometers above the surface. Not very accessible for a ground based separation facility.

27 posted on 12/13/2012 7:03:40 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: svcw
Wwll, they should just switch to hydrogen.

≤}B^)

28 posted on 12/13/2012 7:06:43 AM PST by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: chessplayer
You have no idea of the power of the Party Balloon. Without it, children will be miserable. With unhappy children, why bother with MRI machines? Why would anyone want to live in a joyless, depressing world with no Party Balloons?

Should we toil at drudgery, day in and day out, only to have machines artificially keep us alive so that we can scrabble another root or tuber from a barren, lifeless landscape? What is the point of life without laughter, or happiness, or contentment?

Can you possibly be so jaded that you don't consider the QUALITY of life, more than just the number of days of a bleak, forbidding, horrific and joyless existence? Is it better to live more swiftly in an Eden, then it is to live a few more months in a gray, bleak, hopeless Gulag?

29 posted on 12/13/2012 7:07:08 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: thackney
And most of that, is in the far upper atmosphere called the heterosphere, about 100 kilometers above the surface. Not very accessible for a ground based separation facility.

So run a hose.

30 posted on 12/13/2012 7:07:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Lazamataz

31 posted on 12/13/2012 7:09:21 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

There are loads of wells that produce small amounts of helium. Mostly in New Mexico. The problem is the economics of separating and capturing it. This process is spreading, e.g., to Kansas and Oklahoma, as the price increases.

Of course, if you want loads of helium, just build a space elevator.


32 posted on 12/13/2012 7:09:25 AM PST by RossA
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To: svcw

It is my studied opinion that balloons filled with H2O are way more fun than those filled with any gas; well maybe not any gas, acetylene in balloon and a flame source are fun, too.


33 posted on 12/13/2012 7:10:48 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: thackney

How apt. :)


34 posted on 12/13/2012 7:10:59 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Erasmus; Lazamataz
Wwll, they should just switch to hydrogen.

You have no idea of the power of the Party Balloon.

Interesting sequential postings...

35 posted on 12/13/2012 7:11:14 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RossA
The problem is the economics of separating and capturing it.

That is not an inconsequential problem. Using cryogenics to separate out helium require cooling down to below -346°F where the nitrogen condenses out of the gas remaining after the methane condensed out at -260°F

36 posted on 12/13/2012 7:17:11 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney; chessplayer

37 posted on 12/13/2012 7:18:59 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: thackney

http://www.madehow.com/Volume-4/Helium.html

You can see that Helium is also a waste product from upgassing as well. If the price dictates, that helium will be captured from those processes and sold...so it isn’t just certain wells that contain it, but also the byproduct from upgassing.


38 posted on 12/13/2012 7:19:28 AM PST by willyd (Don't shoot, we're Republicans!)
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To: Lazamataz
People. Ban people.

Don't forget Rage Monkeys

39 posted on 12/13/2012 7:19:37 AM PST by TADSLOS (No need to watch the movie "Idiocracy". We're living it.)
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To: thackney
There are very few sources of Helium in the world.

I'm sure Mitsubishi will be making it soon...from hydrogen. (see current thread)

40 posted on 12/13/2012 7:23:29 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
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