...Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles.
1 Corinthians 1:23
I did not leave the GOP, it left me.
Just looking for a REAL conservative party here!
Goldberg makes some good points. Look, I am a Christian and not ashamed of the Gospel. If we can get Buddhists and Jews and Hindus to agree with us on sanctity of life and free markets, let's do it.
We no longer have any cultural identity. Assimilation is a thng of the past. Judeo-Christian beliefs and principles created what we once had, cultural and religious diversity will destroy everything. The curse at Babel was and is very real. The Dims understand this reality well. Beyond that, no sense flogging a horse as dead as the Republican Party.
The GOP — Not a Club For Christians
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When I saw the title I thought it meant Christians are not welcome...
We’re not of course...
Christians are Conservatives...
As a conservative Christian, I don’t want to sail with this boat. I think, with the loss of the election to the unfaithful, it is time for conservatives to look at a 3rd party. Then, with the Republican party looking more like the Democratic party, hoping to gain on-the fence Democrats, and with the dilutions of both the party’s, we may have a chance. Fifty million people did not vote for this assault on America.
The hell its not. Wasn't all the talk about the GOP being the party of old white men evidence enough?
Until we understand and acknowledge the gross double standard the left is promulgating and begin holding EVERYONE to the same standard of tolerance this country will continue its steepening descent.
I think there is a different reason underlying who Asians support, and who they do not.
Take the Chinese, for example. China is officially an atheist nation, but practically speaking, Christianity is rapidly becoming the religion of the entrepreneurial and business classes. The attitude is that successful people become Christians.
This attitude likely does not change when Chinese come to America.
Otherwise, Chinese have long been called “The Jews of the Orient”, because they share with Jews a very old Oriental philosophy of culture. It is not the same tradition, of course, but it is a parallel outlook on life and history.
And this outlook on life and history is very different from the western, Christian view of life and history.
On top of even that, the Chinese have long had a cultural but not particularly hostile, divide between Buddhism, Confucianism, and Taoism, living side by side. And Islam and Christianity have been there for centuries as well.
So at least as far as the Chinese are concerned, I don’t think that religion is a big sticking point with them in American politics.
If it hurts social trust and cohesion .... knock it off! To put that in Atlantic Slope vernacular, "Whaddaya, stoopid?! Knock it off, yer tearin' the country apart!"
Which is exactly what you want -- tearing the country apart -- if you're a Communist, a jihadi, or a Mau-Mau. Or all of the above.
First off the Mourdock and Aikin loss.When it comes to defending a fundamental religious concept the godless ones have been pretty good at attacking an article of faith and reducing it to ridicule. Now the camp followers in the media as well as certain “conservative” agnostic or atheistic loudmouths help piling it on and the stampede is triggered.
The question becomes how should conservatives handle it ?
Here is a suggested response...
“I happen to believe bla bla bla which will has nothing to do with any legislation that may cross my desk and never will....At least I believe in God ...as a political party God is someone they booed...use the convention clip ...and the ten commandments.... and if you examine (insert name) conduct in office (his her) re-election seems to be a re-newall for the license to steal
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The GOP - not a club for Conservatives.
It is important to remember that a political party is not about principles, but about power for its members. If the GOP doesn’t see a path to power through Conservatism, it isn’t going to be Conservative. Since it is likely we have reached both a Demographic and Social tipping point, we can expect to see both the Democrats and Republicans heading left as fast as they possibly can.
How can one call the GOP a “Christian club” when it nominated for its presidential standard bearer a non-Christian?
Did Goldberg watch the Republican National Convention? Each day, the invocation and the benediction were performed by someone of a different faith.
How about reaching out to the NINETY MILLION eligible voters who stay home on Election Day?
Since the 1870s, the GOP has been the party of middle America. The Democrats were the party of “Rum , Romanism and Rebellion”. This has been slightly updated to Urban poor, alienated immigrants, and the grievance lobby and cultural Marxism. Not much has really changed. In so far as the GOP is the conservative party. Those people put off with talk of a Judeo-Christian tradition are generally alienated with America. As a UES Reform Jew, I can tell you that the same Jews complaining of Christian religiosity at Republican events are even more put off by Orthodox Jewish religiosity. At the same time, they are hypocrites who fully support progressive attempts to immanentize the eschaton through leftist social programs. And most would not otherwise be Republicans, since they buy into socialism as charity. Of course, there are some secular fiscal conservatives. But if they couldn’t vote for Mitt Romney, who never brought up social issues, and did not make religion and issue, how do we get them? It wasn’t the GOP, which made social issues a factor this year. It was the left.
Selling out religion won’t get us votes. But there are things we can and should change. The hackneyed anti-intellectualism that has become the hallmark of the degraded Jacksonian tradition has to go. 50 years ago, National Review readers made “Don’t immanentize the Eschaton” into a bumper sticker. In the last decade, we used terms like “Freedom Fries” and “Cheese eating surrender monkeys”. That is not improvement. One can oppose leftist social engineering without being anti-intellectual. There is a conservative intellectual tradition in America. There is an older tradition reaching back to Plato. We have 3000 years of history, while the ersatz intellectuals of the left are all but parodying their own failures of the last 250 years.
As for non-Muslim Asian Americans, I think Jonah misses a few key points. The first is that they are educated and aspiring, so anti-intellectualism turns them off. They also assimilate not to American culture but to liberal urban culture, since that this where they live. The same thing is happening with the third generation Cuban Americans. Castro is passé, John Stuart is cool. And to get good jobs in the thoroughly world of information technology and the “knowledge workforce”, outward adherence to PC shibboleths is important. Just like whites, they know that they can lose their jobs for not being PC. They understand that this will hurt their children’s futures. And they understand that perceived oppressed groups are allowed to keep their traditional culture in multicultural America, so long as they vote Democrat.
The GOP and the conservative movement allowed the left to control the commanding heights of culture. It ensures the left’s victory. Walking away from religion won’t fix this, it will make it worse.