"What we need to do ...is...expand our own horizon," Beck said. "We would have the ultimate big tent."
Whoopee polygamy here we come !!!
Posted on 12/11/2012 9:48:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Conservative firebrand Glenn Beck has joined a growing chorus of Republican commentators in defending gay marriage, laying out a strong case for ending government opposition to letting same-sex couples wed.
"Let me take the pro-gay marriage people and the religious people — I believe that there is a connecting dot there that nobody is looking at, and that's the Constitution," Beck said during a recent segment of his online talk show. "The question is not whether gay people should be married or not. The question is why is the government involved in our marriage?"
While Beck's defense of gay marriage may seem surprising, given his far-right political views and audience, it is actually not new. Earlier this year, Beck said that he has the "same opinion on gay marriage as President Barack Obama" and does not see same-sex unions as a "threat to America."
Still, Beck's public renewal of his support for gay marriage comes at a politically significant moment for the GOP, which is working to reshape its message to appeal to a changing electorate. A Gallup survey released last week found that 53 percent of Americans are in favor of legalizing gay marriage, a number that has been steadily growing for the past decade.
Moreover, by couching his support for gay marriage in a libertarian framework, Beck makes the case for the right to look past differences on social issues in order to broaden their coalition to include all limited government conservatives.
"What we need to do, I think, as people who believe in the Constitution, is to start looking for allies who believe in the Constitution and expand our own horizon," Beck said. "We would have the ultimate big tent."
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Beck’s (libertarian) slip is showing. Not that it is a bad thing.
"What we need to do ...is...expand our own horizon," Beck said. "We would have the ultimate big tent."
Whoopee polygamy here we come !!!
I know that you are trying to push the republican party left.
I certainly think that is exactly where we are headed.
My red line is the 2nd amendment.
How can he possibly be considered a conservative?
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Hes a ‘severe’ comnservative...
of the Romney brand...
Romney is the father of gay marriage...
So you have your definition, the Book of Mormon has it’s definition, as does the Quran, and whatever book the gay goat church wants to use, to you they are all equal in defining marriage.
Which means that in America, there would no longer be any sense in using the word “marriage”, because it would have no meaning or definition, would give no information.
Same to you honey.
Yet marriages need to be recognized from state to state, if a man has 50 wives in Utah, then they have to be his wives when he moves to Texas.
That is gibberish. Marriage was objectively defined and established by God and has had a stable, unquestioned definition as an institution for at least 5000 years. Just like air, water, love and thought the definition is well established despite what social engineers, "religions", politicians or anybody else says.
Of course, me dying for my beliefs isn't Plan A. Plan A is to stop them before it comes to that via peaceful means.
Not a lot of signs that this is working though.
So the gay marriage supporters want to expand the definition. BAD IDEA! God addresses what marriage is and how to honor the marriage.
Man takes on rights that are NOT for him to alter. God has defined it already. Are we barbarians or totally secular peoples? God forbid!
Of course that has not stopped them before as ABORTION demonstrates.
Pray about it. Ask God to make it clear to all peoples, in Jesus name, amen.
That's my bottom line too. Dems want to control a list of things about our lives, Republicans a different list. Problems is, both lists are growing and take increasingly more of our money to control. Leave us alone.
This is not Nazi Germany, where States' Rights were swept aside to create a Monolithic super-State, governed under requirements for Uniformity of thought & culture--the German Socialist effort to ape Leninist Russia. (See Compulsion For Uniformity.
William Flax
For generations, we have given the State the power to create artificial persons, in the form of corporations, foundations, trusts and the like. Nobody is confused by this government-defined fiction. We know that a corporation is not a real human person. Where the left has a problem is where the Supreme Court has ruled, in Citizens United, that such “persons” have the right of free speech.
Another government-defined fiction that we have allowed for generations is that the State can also define “marriage” and who is “married” and who is not. But marriage predates any State because it is God who defines and defends marriage, not the State. Indeed, any “marriage” a State defines is just as much as legal fiction as when it tells us that a corporation is a “person” that has freedom of speech.
The State attempts to force us to recognize its power. One way is to presume the power to define who is married and who is not. We cede this power in part because we allow the State to tax incomes and estates. To administer such taxing power, the State must define who it considers to be “married” and who is not. Just as when it defines a corporation to be a “person”, as silly as this would be to God, the State does not hesitate to define anyone it pleases as being “married”, totally apart from how God would define them.
Jesus, who was recognized as a prophet by all three monotheistic religions, is quoted in Matthew chapter 19 that from the beginning of humanity, it was God’s intent that marriage would only be one man and one woman. Scripture in many ways and places also tells us that God defines sexual morality and that people who refuse to practice that His morality simply do not qualify for His freely given gift of eternal life. (for example, see Ephesians chapter 5). Of course, people are free to believe whatever they want, but that does not change what God clearly said to us.
If you review the arguments advanced by supporters of same-sex marriage (like at HRC.ORG), you will find that many of them are related to taxation, inheritance and medical issues. But existing law addresses those and any defects in the law can be easily repaired apart from the issue of “marriage”.
I don’t want a government that can tell me what I may or may not do in the privacy of my own home or relationships. In a secular Constitutional Republic with a provision that prohibits Congress from making any law respecting religion, I have to allow others to have their own beliefs and morality. I can only be an advocate for the morality and beliefs that I think are true. I take my understanding of sexual morality from Scripture and that is where I learn that God considers sodomy to be an abomination to Him.
If a State decides that two (or more) people can marry, if that is all that happened, I could live with that because I don’t have to approve, change my beliefs or what beliefs I pass on to my children.
However, once gays and their supporters have sufficient influence with a State to redefine marriage, they don’t stop there. They use the State to forbid me from acting on my morality and beliefs. In fact, the State in some cases forces me to accommodation in their practices.
If I have children in public school, the State will insist on teaching them that gay marriage is just as normal as the God’s marriage. You will be sanctioned as a parent if you attempt to remove your child from such indoctrination.
If you run a business that could provide services to the public, you will be sanctioned if you decline to treat gays as non-gays. For example, if you run a wedding photography business, you will be sanctioned if you decline to photograph a gay wedding. This has already happened in California and New Mexico [1].
You may lose control of your own property. [2]
In short, gays will demand that non-gays accept them as moral equals, which they are not and cannot be. When the State says they are equal it is forbidden for a private citizen to dissent from that status. In doing so, they seek to force me to give them approval for something that I will never approve of. It is that last point that galls gays the most.
Curiously, when advocates of gay marriage are asked if their policy also would allow polygamy or polyandry, they recoil in horror and insist that it does not. However, logic demands that it does. I would ask how same-sex parents are going to react in the future when, for example, Utah public schools officials require that teachers instruct the children that LDS-related polygamy is just as “normal” as same-sex “marriage”. The fact that this will be an issue will show yet again that gay “marriage” is not about marriage at all it is about forcing the rest of us to approve of repugnant sexual immorality, something that LDS polygamists never demanded.
[1] Refusing To Shoot Gay Marriage Is Discrimination, Says New Mexico Appeals Court
http://www.popphoto.com/news/2012/06/refusing-to-shoot-gay-marriage-discrimination-says-new-mexico-appeals-court
[2] Judge Rules Christian facility cannot ban same-sex civil union ceremony on its own premises
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/judge-rules-christian-facility-cannot-ban-same-sex-civil-union-ceremony-on
That would have to be a federal law; it won’t happen with 50 (or is it 57; I can’t remember) states’ individual constitutions and sovereign rights.
I think you’ve lost all patience.
I’m not mad at you. I just think it’s best not to mess with you!
So does that mean if someone wants to refuse to allow a same-sex couple to rent their service (rent a B&B, not photograph their wedding, etc.) the Gov't will not interfere?
Yeah...right.
LMAO. Have a good one.
The thing about dying for one’s beliefs is that it simply means one is dead and so are one’s beliefs.
Certainly a peaceful solution is ideal, but man’s history illustrates that peaceful solutions are...rare to say the least.
Being that I think I know where we are headed, I am preparing myself to survive so that my beliefs survive with me. Smart planning is required here. Sound strategey. I am not sure that most people are capable of this, and I am not sure that I am capable of it either as I have not ever done this before, but I have to try. I don’t know what else to do.
And good luck with your dissemination of pornography, legalization of crack cocaine and the campaigns for the proliferation of sodomy.
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