"That was just pillow talk, baby."
Posted on 12/10/2012 7:09:25 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Texas is waiting for President Obama’s reaction to a petition demanding it be allowed to secede from the United States. They may have to keep waiting.
Sunday marked the last day for Texas’ petition to secede from the union to gather 25,000 digital signatures, the number needed to warrant a response from the White House. The virtual petition achieved that goal four weeks ago. Now it’s up to 119,209, but still no word from the Oval Office.
A White House official told ABC News in November that it would respond to the petition, following a procedure that demands they address any entry to the “We the People” site that rallies the requisite amount of support. On Friday, the White House said they had no prediction for when they might put out at statement.
Even if the White House steps up to the plate this week, it’s possible they will dodge the question, opting to excuse themselves by claiming it does not fall within their jurisdiction.
In the days after President Obama was reelected, several states filed petitions seeking independence alongside Texas. And these petitions gained clicks fast.
By mid-November, every state had at least one petition with more than 150 digital vows of support registered with the White House. Some visitors to WhiteHouse.gov started counter-petitions, asking that the president stop states from seceding.
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As it should be.
The secession hissy-fit is just that. Be an American. Be a Conservative. Let’s start a Conservative party but it requires not throwing a tantrum. Did all those people take their balls and go home as kids?
Tell that to the Founding Fathers, thank you very much.
"That was just pillow talk, baby."
Obama is adding their names to his mailing list. Those who signed the petition will be asked to contribute to his presidential library fund.
Those who signed the petition will be asked to contribute to his presidential library fund.
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Very true....and those that DON’T contribute will contribute more than they ever dreamed.
Conservative party? And do what exactly? Win the next one? right.
Those that are for secession would be much better off supporting a Constitutional Convention. Same for those wanting to form conservative parties, tea parties, etc.
Anyone that thinks we are going to regain our liberty by winning national elections and reversing socialism is wasting valuable time and effort. Most of this country is controlled by the red states. We only need a few more to call a convention and take our country back. The founders gave us the option for the states to call a convention for the EXACT situation which we now find ourselves.
Like it or not, the time to correct the course of our country through elections has past. We are on step two and that's the states calling a Constitutional Convention. Step three is brute force.
You mean to tell me the administration lied! Why, I never....
You have been taught incorrectly. Read the Constitution of Texas of 1876 which was the Constitution adopted after the War Between the States and approved by the Federal Legislature. No right to secede!
Why ask permission? Have we accepted that obama is a dictator? Even the white house says it’s not their jurisdiction. So, what’s the next step? I’ll answer that. It would be to elect a governor who can remember a list with only three items on it.
Why ask permission? Have we accepted that obama is a dictator? Even the white house says it’s not their jurisdiction. So, what’s the next step? I’ll answer that. It would be to elect a governor who can remember a list with only three items on it.
Actually, Texas was allowed in by a treaty that was never ratified. I’d think that would outweigh any old civil war no matter who won.
Direct quote from a post yesterday:
“Holder, however, rejected this argument. “Essentially, the 10th Amendment is a dead letter,” Holder said. “As the Civil War demonstrated no power asserted by any state can stand against the might of the federal government.”
So let me paraphrase:
“Those pussies! Those wuss states! They actually believe their people and legislatures have anything REAL to do with government? What a bunch of tools....
They’ll do what we SAY, not what we do!!!”
We should all be writing our congressmen, writing our state government, and protesting in the streets calling for this and for calling the democrat party , the media, and Obama which all equals the democrat party for what they are election stealing villains , takers of our freedom and birthright.
We should at least name the threat = the democrat party.
What if, come 1 January, Texas workers suddenly found the federal boxes on their pay check stubs zeroed out? That is, more or less, what secession would entail, is it not (physical security of Pantex not considered)? Imagine: a country sustained by sales taxes!
I make it a point to ignore the White House. The man who lives there is not my president.
That may have been the case the first time, but I’d bet more than one beer that it wasn’t the case the second time.
>>>Reality check here folks. Do you seriously think the Federal government would ever allow this to happen. Sorry, but it’s time to wake up from this little dream.
Hmmm. I don’t know. Spread the military thin enough in lots of foreign wars and there’s not much left at home to prevent a state from seceding.
I hope Texas keeps this dream alive. As far as I’m concerned, the more the federal government has to worry about regarding the possibility — or even a hint of a threat — of internal revolt, the better.
Start ignoring federal regulatory edicts and chase the EPA out of the state when they arrive under 10th Amendment rights...that’ll get their attention.
“I have always been taught that Texas, because it was a free republic when it willingly joined the union, could leave whenever it decided to do so”
Tell that to the Southern States that WILLINGLY JOINED the Union. When they tried to leave Lincoln sent his murdering hoardes South and 4 years later almost a million Americans were dead. All the Founding Fathers believed in secession. Every last one of them. The murdering madman Lincoln said to hell with Jefferson, Madison and Washington. They were all wrong. He was right. We have all been slaves to the Federal government since April 1865, when Lee surrendered to Grant.
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