Posted on 12/02/2012 7:18:33 AM PST by Moseley
Okay, who stole our jobs?
Democrats accuse Republicans of out-sourcing American jobs. But no one knows how this is happening. Republicans have no idea how they supposedly outsource jobs.
If someone started a petition saying Lets repeal section 99 U.S.C. Section 1234 to stop outsourcing jobs, probably 80% to 90% of citizens and elected officials would rush to sign. The repeal of such a mythical section would probably take 48 hours to pass both houses of Congress and be signed by the President. But how can you repeal something if you dont know what you want to repeal?
One of Mitt Romneys great debate moments on October 3 exposed the Democrats charade. Barack Obama called for an end to tax breaks encouraging companies to send jobs overseas. Small problem: There arent any such tax breaks. Mitt Romney called him on it. Romney said he had been in business for over 25 years. Romney said he had never heard of any tax break encouraging businesses to send jobs overseas. No one seems to notice that the Democrats want to eliminate a tax break or other laws that they dont identify.
No one seems to know who is responsible or how the jobs are disappearing. Its the mystery of the purloined jobs. No one wants jobs to leave. Yet its always someone elses fault.
Curiously, liberals have no problem with illegal aliens flooding Americas job market and stealing U.S. jobs inside America. So are Democrats concerned about American workers? Or do they simply want to smear and discredit Republicans?
So whats the real problem
and the solution? We have been losing jobs for decades, sinking into a third-world country. American manufacturing has been in decay for a long time.
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Cut back excesssive regulations and put a leash on the unions.
Jobs will come back.
FINALLY. About darn time this was discussed here.
It is long past time for America to stop buying imported goods, and bring back American jobs.
Every other country in the world has it set-up to require either as with China - that goods are actually manufactured there (seems to be working pretty darn well, to this poster)
Or at very least we need to immediately enact import tariffs to favor goods built in America.
Look at the most recent election.
That is because ever more Americans are UNEMPLOYED.
Why in the world are we firing Americans?
BUILD IT HERE. Darn it.
We are not ever going to be competitive with the slaves of the Chi-coms and the peasants of India unless we adopt their way of life. We could deregulate ourselves that low and give the government and employers total power over us, but who would want to live here then?
We need to ditch global trade and fashion trade with nations that serve our interests and way of life. Global trade serves globalists and no one else. It’s a rush to the bottom of the globe’s sewer.
Apparently, we will be expected to pile up 10 deep in 1 bedroom apts if we are to compete. (sarc)
When 53% would rather not work because the government benefits are better, where do you think the jobs are going?
Do 53% not want to work?
Or have 47% simply sent enough jobs overseas now, that the 53% are left with no alternative but to suck up to the government dole?
That is my point. I don’t know it for a fact, but it seriously now seems we are making it worse, not better, by sending jobs overseas.
BRING JOBS BACK TO AMERICA.
Commenting on the "jobless" recovery an Oct 17th 2003 article in Morgan Stanley's Global Stephen Roach wrote of "Imported Productivity" and "income leakage" vis-à-vis business cycle recoveries today compared to recoveries of the past.
"Wage and salary disbursements -- by far the dominant component of personal income -- are basically unchanged in real terms fully 21 months into this [2001] recovery. By contrast, at this juncture in the past six upturns, real wage income has been up, on average, by about 9%. The gap between the current cycle and the norm of earlier cycles works out to a shortfall of about $320 billion in real terms, or 4.4% of the current level of real disposable personal income...
"Sourcing demand through low-cost, offshore labor input has become an increasingly important tactic to enhance the operating efficiency of US businesses... the American workforce is not sharing the benefits. The resulting clash between the owners of capital and the providers of labor has resulted in profound tensions in the US body politic. Imported productivity, together with the jobless recovery and income leakage it implies, is the stuff of heightened trade frictions, mounting protectionist risks, and a populist assault on Corporate America.
". . . In my view, the income leakages of imported productivity raise serious questions about the sustainability of this recovery from an economic point of view. At the same time, the political reaction to the resulting jobless recovery raises equally profound questions about sustainability from a political standpoint."
That was the Bush years where we had a weak (job-loss recovery at times but it was a real) recovery.
Blame unions, taxes, and regulation.. how did foreign companies moving here as U.S. corporation vacated manage?
Excellent, just what we need, more regulation.
But we could do it faster if we simply pass a law preventing employers from firing anyone, it works in Europe! Better yet, make 'em hire new workers, we could start at a one to one ratio with existing employees.
We might have enough employed to build a fifty foot wall around all of America to keep those malcontents not thrilled with this plan IN America.
Regulation, I only want one more hit, I can stop anytime I want.
Yep, DownSize DC!
Free the Nation again.
Look for a long time we have been the LEAST regulated market on earth.
America jobs have been running overseas now for two decades at least.
For that entire time, the world has not been reciprocating.
We have found ourselves on the short end of that stick.
ObamaCare.
If the products produced by US companies inside the US are going to be taxed at 35%, it is only fair to levy a stiff tax on imports to level the playing field. Allowing imports free access to our markets while levying high taxes on US products is suicide for the American worker and the US economy.
Not only do the factories pouring goods into this nation not pay US taxes. They get a huge free ride on the US taxpayer. The US Navy keeps the sea lanes around the world open for trade. The Coast Guard provides livesaving and security for ships coming in and out of the harbors. The US Army Corps of Engineers keeps the harbors and waterways dredged. The taxpayer builds the roads and bridges used to move the imports to warehouses and stores. The taxpayer builds the airports and provides the air traffic control system the air cargo freighters use. The customs service inspects goods coming into the country.
When free traders get Congress to eliminate tariffs on imports they ignore the subsidies exporting countries provide the factories shipping goods to the US. Zero interest loans, direct cash subsidies for exports, and currency manipulation are a few of the ways China and other nations subsidize their exports to the US. in addition they put up tariff and non tariff barrier to foreign goods seeking access to their markets.
Free traders argue the economy is more efficient when foreign goods have open access to the US market with no tariffs. It is their view the US firms and taxpayers should bear the full cost of the infrastructure supporting trade, plus carry the full tax burden of the federal government, while imports get a free ride. The free ride, plus the direct subsidies by the foreign nations, create a situation where it is impossible for more efficient US factories and US labor to compete. The big lie is “free trade” is a level playing field and economically “fair”. It is not.
We’ve spent the last 20 years with the grand free trade experiment. It has been a disaster for the US taxpayer, for the US economy, and for the US worker. It is time to end it and resume to a tariff system that levels the playing field for US companies and US labor as well as brings in needed revenue to start paying down the deficit.
Alexander Hamilton’s financial plan that paid off the debt of the Revolution included high tariffs and duties on imports. The nation prospered. The US imposed high tariffs after the Civil War. During the 30 years after the Civil War the foundation of the manufacturing infrastructure that powered our economy until the 1980’s was built. The economy boomed and we had high tariffs that paid for most of the cost of the federal government. Instead of piling more taxes on US companies and US citizens, let’s make the importers pay their fair share.
Well, that's one way to argue in favor of higher taxes and more regulation. In any case, and this may be news to you, Canada has a lower level of business regulation than the U.S. (and a lower tax rate).
With that blithering statement, why don’t you just resign your FR membership and officially join DU, Kos, Huffpo. If you really believe that, you are not near the conservatitve, or historian, you think you are.
Look I am not arguing we have our problems, but the biggest problem we simply refuse to discuss it the export of millions of American jobs.
Bring back US jobs.
Now.
Downsize DC?
No,
“DC needs to SECEDE from the union!”
No, that is NOT another discussion in itself. That IS THE disucssion at hand. The war on business, by unions, bureaucrats, taxes, and unemployment benefits, is PRECISELY why the jobs have gone. Period.
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