Interesting Development In Trayvon Martin Case

Vanity | 01 December 2012 | zeestephen

[zeestephen]

The George Zimmerman defense team has filed a motion to compel Benjamin Crump, the Trayvon Martin family attorney, to produce the original recording of his telephone interview with Trayvon's girlfriend "Dee Dee". Summary in Comments.

[zeestephen]

Re: “Trayvon’s Phone PIN”

Yes, as I recall, Trayvon had two Operating Systems installed on his phone, but Florida investigators only found one of them.

I think the Defense team discovered the second OS, and they also asked for Trayvon’s PIN.

But, I'm not an expert on the whole case, so that may not be the whole story.

[GeronL]

What would be the purpose of a 2nd O/S??

[vlpate]

What “federal” charges?

[zeestephen]

Re: “Knowledge of Dee Dee”

You may be right, that the “Girlfriend” was talked about from the beginning of the case.

I can't recall.

However, I think the first time we heard the name “Dee Dee” was in Crump’s press conference.

Also, several bloggers claim that Trayvon’s parents said they had never heard of this “girlfriend” before, even though Dee Dee claimed she was dating Trayvon and they had been friends since kindergarten.

Also, there is no public evidence that prosecutors talked to Dee Dee before 02 April, even though Dee Dee claims to be a “cell phone witness” to the alleged murder.

[Tijeras_Slim]

There aren’t any yet... but if the locals can’t get the pre-ordained lynching done, the Feds will come up with something. Ask the Rodney King Cops.

[zeestephen]

Re: “Second OS”

I’ve heard speculation that drug dealers do that, but I have no clue.

Also, it occurred to me that some social media platforms might only work on a specific OS, so kids install more than one.

I don’t do social media, so, once again, I’m clueless.

[zeestephen]

Re: “Conservative TreeHouse”

I read the Court Petition at TreeHouse.

However, the blogger, sundancecracker, claims in his article that Dee Dee is a complete fabrication and that Crump and the prosecutors are going to go jail.

That's possible, but I don't think the public evidence supports that conclusion today.

So, I just focused on the Petition and tried to give a good summary of relevant facts that everyone can confirm.

[Uncle Chip]

According to Crump, he contacted Dee Dee's parents by phone, and they agreed to allow her to be phone interviewed, but ONLY by Benjamin Crump.

How convenient is that??? only by phone and only by an attorney. Those were Crump's rules not the mother's.

If she is 18 then Crump no longer needed to go through her mother for the rules of the interview. So who's buying that???

The reason Crump won't turn over a clear recording of that interview under any circumstances is that an analysis of the tape would show that the DeeDee of that Crump interview [3/19] was not the DeeDee on the tape of that BDLR deposition on 4/2.

It's the tale of the 2 DeeDees. How could this 18 y/o DeeDee have known Trayvon since kindergarten???

[Uncle Chip]

It appears that Florida law enforcement NEVER tried to obtain the Benjamin Crump tape recording.

The SP Angela Corey took over the case on March 22nd, immediately after the March 20th Crump press conference. It was her duty to secure that tape recording and all the details of that interview, especially since DeeDee was and is the state's star witness in their charging document.

The big question here is what will Corey's office do now that they have this motion, and they know that others know that the cat's out of the bag???

Will they table it and try to talk their way around it at the Dec 11th hearing or will they get the recording device from Crump and get it to the defense on Dec 10th.

And will Judge Nelson continue to play stupid at the Dec 11th hearing???

[zeestephen]

Chip,

My own subjective conclusion - FDLE has never tried to obtain it!

But, there are always surprises and new facts, so time will tell.

[zeestephen]

Re: 18 years old

I noticed that the prosecutor says Dee Dee was 18 at the time of their interview, 02 April 2012.

So, it’s possible she actually was 17, and a minor, on 26 February 2012.

So, I’m going to wait to see when her birthday was before I start pounding the “fake minor” theme.

[Uncle Chip]

My own subjective conclusion - FDLE has never tried to obtain it!

If the Special Prosecutor wanted it, the FDLE would have obtained it.

They didn't want it because they knew that there was something seedy about it -- and there is.

They were just hoping that Zimmerman would have accepted a plea deal before any of this stuff came out in court. They were hoping that they could slough off this interview as irrelevant.

They never expected to face a bulldog in court who would be this thorough. West has their number and they know it.

[Uncle Chip]

Actually she was 18 on March 19th when she had her interview with Crump over the phone:

“Witness Eight is 18 years old and was 18 at the time of Crump’s interview of her according to her sworn statement to the prosecutor on April 2, 2012. Her unedited statement to the prosecutor was not released to the defense until September and only after repeated requests. Her age was edited out of the interview in a previous disclosure.” [Pg 1, Footnote 2]

Whether her birthday was March 18th or anytime before that is irrelevant to the fact that on March 20th Crump declared to the whole world over and over again that she was a minor. He knows what that means.

[Uncle Chip]

Here’s an interesting news report from April 4, 2012:

FBI agents were in Sanford on Tuesday, continuing their interviews in a civil rights investigation of the case, which Martin family supporters say is a clear-cut case of racial profiling leading to an unjust killing. One of the people they met with Tuesday is Frank Taaffe, Zimmerman’s neighbor and friend.

On Monday, agents interviewed Martin’s girlfriend, the 16-year-old girl who, phone records show, was on the line with him shortly before the fatal confrontation, Martin family attorney Daryl Parks confirmed Tuesday.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/03/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html

So did the FBI agents interview an 18 year old or a 16 year old girl???

Maybe they got hoodwinked too.

[Steely Tom]

Also, several bloggers claim that Trayvon’s parents said they had never heard of this “girlfriend” before, even though Dee Dee claimed she was dating Trayvon and they had been friends since kindergarten.

Also, there is no public evidence that prosecutors talked to Dee Dee before 02 April, even though Dee Dee claims to be a “cell phone witness” to the alleged murder.

Also it is well to keep in mind the fact that - in recent years - the giving of false statements and testimony has been tolerated in many criminal cases in which "civil rights issues" have played a role.

I'm thinking here of the many on-campus "racist graffiti" cases, and of the Crystal Magnum vs. Duke Lacrosse Team episode. There have been many others I'm sure.

If the "Dee Dee girlfriend" story falls apart, it'll be "no harm, no foul." She'll do a quick fade and will never be mentioned again.

"Cell Phone witness." Funny.

[MHGinTN]

‘Dee Dee’ is a prime example of magic thinking. She likely now believes her own fabricated tale. The attorney knew he could count on her to become convinced of whatever he coached her to say. He’s scum and needs to go to his father ...