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To: Sam Gamgee; Verdelet
Sam -- you're talking through your hat. I live in Poland and have history as a hobby -- I'm not Polish nor of Polish origin (my wife is) and your statements are completely wrong to anyone who has read any amount of history

Do you know that Jews were invited to live in Poland by the kings when they were thrown out of England and Germany and Spain? And that they, forget about being persecuted, got rights as equals and these were safeguarded by the kings?

Do you know that Jews in the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth (1389-1793) were pretty much governing themselves and lived in peace -- in the late 1700s they comprised nearly 80% of world Jewry.

Do you know that the Hebrew joke was for 'polonia' (Poland in Latin) to be read as poh-lan-ya (God rests here). In the words osponsa No. 73 of the great Kraków rabbi Moses Isserles 'Remuh' (1510-72): "It is better to live on dry bread, but in peace, in Poland.">

do you know that the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth (from 1389 to 1793) was religiously tolerant? The Poles were Catholics, but Orthodox Ruthenians, Armenian Orthodox, Jews, Unitarians (Polish Brethern), Calvinists and Lutherans as well as Moslem Tartars were free to live,govern themselves and were unmolested and free to practise their religion?

Where do you get this "Jew hating" idea from? Do you know that the largest number of people in Israel's Yad Vashem for "righteous among the gentiles" are Poles?

Do you know that the Nazis considered Polish Gentiles the second race to be exterminated after Jews? And did you know that only in Nazi occupied Poland, if anyone was caught harboring, or even giving a Jew food, they would be sentenced to death with their family? And yet, even then, many Jews were helped?

"Jew hating" -- that's among the most ignorant statements I've heard so far -- to call a nation that was almost a land for Jews (80%) "Jew hating" is ignorant to say the least

16 posted on 11/29/2012 4:22:27 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos
I am more than willing to stand corrected and I hope what you say is true. I got the impression that Jews were basically left to their own devices during the resistance against the Nazis because Polish freedom fighters didn't want Jews in their ranks. Also that Jews fled Poland to Palestine in the early 1900s because of persecution in Poland?
20 posted on 11/29/2012 11:11:26 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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