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My thesis is that the GOP is in trouble across the electoral board because it has become identified in the public mind with social conservatism.

Then we are doomed as a nation. I know of no historical precedent for a country whose greatness did not reflect the moral fiber of its citizens.

1 posted on 11/26/2012 9:51:09 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota
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I detect a pretty strong “social conservatism” in both Asian and Hispanic immigrant communities.

I very seriously doubt “social conservatism” is a reason for many Asian or Hispanic voters to reject the R party candidates.

Indeed, it could well be that the R party candidates would get more Asian and Hispanic votes if “social conservatism” were more noticeably a part of the R campaigns. For instance, “social conservatism” was almost completely avoided by Governor Romney... and look what happened to his candidacy.


33 posted on 11/26/2012 10:29:50 AM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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Asian-Americans are extremely socially liberal. They widely favor abortion and homosexual marriage. I’m surprised that anyone is surprised they overwhelmingly vote Rat.


38 posted on 11/26/2012 10:38:12 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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Many Asians come from more collectivist cultures, so I don’t think it should be any surprise they tend to vote Democrat.


42 posted on 11/26/2012 10:50:37 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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He actually presents zero evidence to back up his ‘thesis’. Only seems to suggest that it must be the case because there’s no other explanation out there.

I think he far too quickly dismisses the Jewish-Asian parallel. Both groups are very aware of being an identifiable minority that succeeds ahead of the majority population. More specifically, Chinese and Japanese have experience in this, like Jews, pretty much wherever they settle worldwide.

Both Jews and the Chinese, especially, also have very leftist politics prominent in their heritage, but I think it is the overachieving minority status that leads them to liberal politics.

While being industrious in building wealth, Asians and Jews both believe their ethnicity or race truly does have above-average intelligence, which means by definition that other populations to some degree have below-average intelligence. Thus, they believe the majority population is at an innate disadvantage in competing with them, and if they are going to keep resentment from spoiling their own opportunity, that resentment needs to be mollified, ideally with an ideology that further soothes injured group identity pride. So backing liberal politics both throws a bone to the less well equipped and it puts them themselves in a kinder, gentler spotlight.

This I think is a tough dynamic to change.


43 posted on 11/26/2012 10:55:02 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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asian-americans ? -
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46 posted on 11/26/2012 11:01:12 AM PST by stylin19a (obama -> Fredo smart)
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The last line below is your answer.





Fight Wrongs!



48 posted on 11/26/2012 11:02:53 AM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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If its true they aren’t Repubs it could be because they are a minority and the media has taught them that Repubs HATE minorities.


52 posted on 11/26/2012 11:13:12 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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I’m getting real tired of tribal politics. Another couple of years, and we’ll sink past Europe and be Africa.


61 posted on 11/26/2012 11:35:52 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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Most of the Asians I know are conservative. But then, I live in Collin County, Texas ... one of the most conservative counties in the state, if not the nation.


74 posted on 11/26/2012 12:15:39 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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Although a case can be made about a majority of Asians being fiscally conservative, I would guess they avoid the GOP because of all the typical stereotypes. The Dems have established themselves as the party for minorities. Our 2-party system completely ignores the founding principles of each party and runs on a few social issues (i.e. gay marriage, abortion, etc). It’s no wonder they join the Dem party without realizing all the things they don’t share in common with them.

Like it or not, Whites are still the racial majority in the US and will always be viewed as racist bigots who try to keep everyone else down until another ethnic group becomes the majority. Not saying I like that outcome, I just don’t see how it will evolve another way at the rate things are going.


77 posted on 11/26/2012 12:42:28 PM PST by Marko413
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79 posted on 11/26/2012 1:34:46 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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If 50% of Asians voted for George H.W. Bush in 1992 and 20% for Romeny in 2012 — nothing in this analysis explains any of that. Furthermore, the GOP has elevated two Asian-Americans to promoinent posts — the governors of Louisiana and South Carolina — both in the heartland of social conservatism. Explain that, Charlie Murray, old boy.

I wonder if Asians were not taken in by the endless propaganda against Romney as a rich white man. Or did the Democrats develop special marketing to Asians that has not come out in the coverage of the elections?

I think conservatives and Republicans within the Asian community need to help forward the analysis here and explain this anomaly. Do Asians understand the message they are sending America in their voting patterns this year — that they will stand against the Constitution and in favor of the welfare state? I’m sure that was not the message intended. But, that is the message received.


86 posted on 11/26/2012 2:17:40 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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What aren’t Asians Lepubricans?


87 posted on 11/26/2012 2:28:15 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Asians and Latinos (white Cubans excepted) are not Republicans because “Get Whitey” is not (yet) part of the GOP platform.


98 posted on 11/26/2012 4:10:04 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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If Asians are "the new Jews" wouldn't they be expected to vote in the same way as the old Jews?

Asians who live in Republican states may be more favorable to Republicans, but as of now, most Asians still live in Democrat states, and vote like other blue staters.

Plus, this is what's been going on for centuries. Some group comes to form the core of a party. How you feel about that group comes to define the political system. And if you're not a part of the group you tend to vote for the other party.

A lot of Asians think of Republicans as the party of White Evangelicals and because they're not that, they vote for the other party. Same way it was with the Irish and the (original) Jews.

99 posted on 11/26/2012 4:17:46 PM PST by x
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“Then we are doomed as a nation.”

Old news, buddy.


106 posted on 12/15/2012 6:34:15 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks stupid.)
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