Then we are doomed as a nation. I know of no historical precedent for a country whose greatness did not reflect the moral fiber of its citizens.
Going into the 2004 presidential election, two major issues posed potential threats to President Bush's prospects for re-election: the economy and the Iraq war.
CBS News Exit poll results suggest that these issues were not the clear-cut silver bullet the Kerry campaign had hoped they would be. Instead, their effectiveness has been countered to a large degree by two issues emphasized by the Bush campaign: terrorism and moral values. [CBS News National Exit Poll results are based on interviews with 13,531 voters. The sampling error is plus or minus 1 point.]
Nazi Germany -- except substitue greatness with infamous and moral fiber with moral turpitude.
There are countless other examples throughout history.
Of course, how do you measure greatness? What's the metric? GDP? Ability to influence the world? How long the nation has survived?
I have one idea. How well do you transition from one generation to the next.
This is a good question. I live near a HUGE Asian concentration in the San Gabriel Valley. I’ve noticed that they are hard working, they are homeowners, they are business owners, the are professionals, they are upscale, they are suburban, they believe in higher education, ....I ‘ve also noted a far higher rate of regular church attendance than the general population as well as a stronger family unit than the general population. Bottom line: They work hard, pay taxes, have strong family values and are very religious. Why this group is favoring the Dems is BEYOND my powers of understanding. Because Asians do so well in academics and education in general, they over-represented in many of the state’s universities and therefore subject to reverse discrimination and adverserly impacted by racial quotas. The only thing I can figure is that they perceive the GOP to be too tough on immigration and not inclusive enough. Other than that it makes no sense. The Asians I see are not into the free stuff bs. They LIKE to work and make money and own businesses and go to church.
Perhaps. It's pretty clear that the upcoming generations are far more libertine on social issues. Gay marriage is not the winning issue it once was, DADT will never go back in force, abortion may well decrease as morning-week after type pills become common place. Like it or not, the GOP is likely to focus far more on fiscal issues than social ones. Republicans will fight these social battles only when the left pushes way too far an offends a polling majority. Traditional conservative primary voters are going to remember the disasters Akin and Mourdock turned out to be and think twice before supporting the less polished statewide candidates going forward.
> Why aren’t Asians Republicans?
Are you kidding? Every Asian that I know is a Republican.
My Vietnamese sister-in-law even says that the Democrats act too much like communists for her likes (some years ago, she spent a half year in a communist reeducation camp).
!!! Free Stuff !!!
All elites have to be vomited out of our leadership.
Leftist and faux-conservatives.
There is no other issue besides THE moral issue.
Elites - the issue is morality - are you for it or against it ?
The pollsters and consultants, hanging on to their pathetic jobs, flood the conversation with theories on demographics and polling.
What a great political strategy - they must be geniuses !
“Give the people what they want”.
How novel.
“My thesis is that the GOP is in trouble across the electoral board because it has become identified in the public mind with social conservatism. “
- the stupidest thing I have heard so far this morning.
Think before you speak, guy who wrote this. What are you saying ? Moron.
The GOP has always been associated with morals, or what you call “social conservatism”.
Unless hearts and minds of the electorate are changed for the better, faux conservatism is going to be a shrinking minority. Is that what you want ? Faux conservatism can’t claim to be the “party of immorality” because the Democratic Party already owns that territory.
Pollsters have no clue when it comes to marketing and sales in a competitive environment.
I guess that Asians probably represent the least likely to vote minority.
Yep, we are therefore Doomed!
This new litmus test, has hijacked the Tea Party, which found a broader based appeal that brought so many folks that were far more fiscally Conservative than socially dogmatic..
I am a Social Conservative as well as Fiscally, but I cannot bring myself to cut off my nose to spite my face.. I cannot dislike, or disqualify my Fiscal Brethren that do not share all of my personal values..
Where have I gone so wrong?
They might assume federal-controlled healthcare is a good idea not thinking that it's more power for big government and less for the individual. I don't know....why don't we ask a number of Asian-Americans why they support a socialist like Obama. It would be interesting to hear them, especially the business people, justify voting for someone who would like to bankrupt them.
Because the Magna Carta and the later US Constitution weren’t based on ancient mandarin texts. They were based on western judeo-christian e.g. western philosophies and values. In asia, being a good worker ant is valued.
There is a non-zero possibility that the majority of Asians are racialists who see white dominance as an affront to their pride, and are using the Democratic party as a tool to undermine that dominance, per the following comment:
Religion is the only thing that keeps people from acting as racialists.
The GOP is fighting a losing battle and need to acknowledge it in their hearts. The best route to go is Milton Freidman in public and Guillaume Faye in cloak and dagger.True Conservatives would reject America and plan for what happens afterwards.
It seems to me that people who have knowledge and/or experience with communism also have an appreciation for conservative political principles.
1. Pro life
2.Pro Family
3.Pro Traditional Marriage
Since the conservative position on these matters has constituted what western civilisation has defined as 'Moral' for millenia I would like to know why anyone who holds these positions is suddenly a radical?
I keep hearing pundits and politcal consultants talk about how we on the right keep moving more and more to the fringe. Where's the movement? I haven't changed my position on any of the above issues in my life. I've always been pro life, pro family and have always believed that marriage was the civilizing and moral foundation of our society. Always! If you would have suggested to a man 100 years ago...say in 1912...that his great grandchildren would be ridiculed for being against abortion and against homosexual marriage he would have looked at you as if you had 2 heads! But those of us who hold those time honored and NATURAL ideas are now radical right wing extremists!
What a world!
When I lived in San Francisco, I knew Asians who wouldn't drive to Sacramento - they were sure they would be ambushed and murdered on the way by the KKK. Do the Democrats play up these ludicrous stereotypes for political advantage? Of course, and why not? They know Republicans will let them go unanswered.
If the Republicans were an actual small government party, they could do much better, but until some of the base realizes the best way to advance social conservatism is to allow people the freedom to practice social conservative beliefs and to limit Big Government's spending and legislation in the service of social liberalism, not to take over the tools of Big Government and use them against people they don't like, the party is going to keep shrinking.
Start out by recognizing the multi-generational quest of any people, to preserve their core values; to build on those core values. Emphasize on the social issues, that under our Constitutional formulation, those are issues to be addressed--save only for sound money & the free market--by the people acting as sovereign states; pointing out that the Constitution confers no functions on the Federal Government that go to how people actually regulate themselves in their individual communities; that all such questions are left to States, guaranteed a republican form of Government, but certainly not a Federally controlled, or an egalitarian (Jacobin or Socialist) society.
William Flax
That's a good question.
Funny, but I never thought of Asians as moochers and slobs. But I guess the numbers don't lie.
Centralized power is the norm throughout the world. Its hard for people to conceive of any other model.
Thats why people who look like natural conservatives vote for centralized power. They are naturally conservative in the common meaning of the word and won’t risk limiting the power of the center.
We have to understand that what we call conservative isn’t. We are revolutionary, and even though the revolution has been around a while it has never really won. Because so many of us are social conservatives, we confuse revolutionary classic liberalism as being politically conservative when in reality it is not. There is nothing conservative about liberty in a world that does not value liberty.
Our blend of classic liberalism rooted in biblical values is unprecedented and exists no where else in the world. In the war between John Locke and Rousseau, Rousseau won everywhere but here and in fact he mostly won here too. John Locke hangs on with a stubborn few in this country alone.