Posted on 11/26/2012 9:51:06 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota
Last week, I pointed out that there is no such thing as a natural social-conservative skew among Latino Americans. But that leaves open a rejoinder, expressed by several readers: The GOP doesn’t need to get all of the Latino vote, just its fair share. That’s true, and I should have made my point clearer. In the wake of the election, some social conservatives have tried a new version of the old Silent Majority argument, contending that Republicans can continue to make their candidates pass litmus tests on abortion and gay marriage and still win national elections if only it taps the natural social conservatism of Latinos. Exposing that illusion was the point of the numbers I presented.
This time I will explicitly offer a broader argument and then give the numbers. My thesis is that the GOP is in trouble across the electoral board because it has become identified in the public mind with social conservatism. Large numbers of Independents and Democrats who are naturally attracted to arguments of fiscal discipline, less government interference in daily life, greater personal responsibility, and free enterprise refuse to vote for Republicans because they are so put off by the positions and rhetoric of social conservatives, whom they take to represent the spirit of the “real” GOP.
I use Asian-Americans as an example of how powerfully this antipathy can alienate a naturally conservative voting bloc. Let it be clear: The causal link with social conservatism is asserted here, not proved. But the GOP had better take the hypothesis seriously.
Let’s start with data from the Current Population Survey from 2003 on some key socioeconomic indicators for adults ages 30–49. (The CPS first started identifying Asians separately from other ethnic groups in 2003).
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A couple of the idiot commenters at the link alluded to the cause. Many Asians view the Republican party as the White Party. There is a strong animus towards Whitey, though not as bad as among blacks and hispanics.
Well, maybe not all remember it because the Japanese Americans in Hawaii are all Democrats and they didn't get sent to camps!
Or, maybe there's a link ~ maybe some JAs got the idea that being a Democrat would keep you out of camp, so they got with the picture, yet others thought, hey, even the Democrats aren't going to send you to a camp for not being white.
Little did they know that the Democrats like their colored folk in camps, or on plantations, to the greatest extent possible.
So, the other Asians know about that, or they say to themselves "those JAs deserved to go to camps"!
Not putting it past the other Asians to chose to be Democrats just to spite the JA's, but that would be so stupid of them ~ the Democrats will, eventually, send all of them to camps, and if there are no Republicans around in that future, then they won't come out!
Well, maybe not all remember it because the Japanese Americans in Hawaii are all Democrats and they didn't get sent to camps!
Or, maybe there's a link ~ maybe some JAs got the idea that being a Democrat would keep you out of camp, so they got with the picture, yet others thought, hey, even the Democrats aren't going to send you to a camp for not being white.
Little did they know that the Democrats like their colored folk in camps, or on plantations, to the greatest extent possible.
So, the other Asians know about that, or they say to themselves "those JAs deserved to go to camps"!
Not putting it past the other Asians to chose to be Democrats just to spite the JA's, but that would be so stupid of them ~ the Democrats will, eventually, send all of them to camps, and if there are no Republicans around in that future, then they won't come out!
Much of the confusion was due to the fact that so many New York militia and regimental paperwork was never assembled into one place for proper analysis until modern times.
So, my American ancestors who were Dutch, Swedish, Oneida and just strays from the woods ~ who participated in the New York militia (mostly the Tryon County militia) really did so, and on the American side ~
Whenever you come up with something that says New Yorkers didn't participate in the Revolution you really need to give the source so I can make them correct it ~ or, at least, burn their books!
> But the Asians, like the Hispanics, go for the freebies.
Which group doesn’t like free stuff?
If 50% of Asians voted for George H.W. Bush in 1992 and 20% for Romeny in 2012 — nothing in this analysis explains any of that. Furthermore, the GOP has elevated two Asian-Americans to promoinent posts — the governors of Louisiana and South Carolina — both in the heartland of social conservatism. Explain that, Charlie Murray, old boy.
I wonder if Asians were not taken in by the endless propaganda against Romney as a rich white man. Or did the Democrats develop special marketing to Asians that has not come out in the coverage of the elections?
I think conservatives and Republicans within the Asian community need to help forward the analysis here and explain this anomaly. Do Asians understand the message they are sending America in their voting patterns this year — that they will stand against the Constitution and in favor of the welfare state? I’m sure that was not the message intended. But, that is the message received.
What aren’t Asians Lepubricans?
I think the biggest factor is social issues. Specifically the (irrational) fear of "Bible-thumpers". Even though these societies are fairly pro-marriage and anti-gay rights.
Asians do seem to favor abortion by a wide margin.
His answer: "Political parties change over time. The republicans used to be for individual freedom. Now all they do is try to impose their morality on everyone."
He didn't really answer my specific question, but it did reveal the mindset of Japanese-Americans in 2012.
What’s happening is that EVERY minority gorup in the nation is falling in-line with the democratic party because the RATs have painted the GOP as the party of white people....it’s that simple. The dems have used race to ruin the republican brand, and it worked.
I suppose it’s too much to ask that we move beyond that.
Exactly.
The Leftist strategy is to incite class and race divisions. They are all about driving wedges between Americans.
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How do we counteract that perception?
It's not a perception - it's reality. The GOP has become a "white Christian party" that white Christians don't even support all that strongly.
This whole deal is based on a propaganda story concocted by the NAACP ~
He thinks Republicans are going to make him start wearing a penis shield when he goes out in public.
He's a nutcase pervert!
Somebody escaped the reservation over there and they'll be out with their chihuahuas to bite them!
Asians and Latinos (white Cubans excepted) are not Republicans because “Get Whitey” is not (yet) part of the GOP platform.
Asians who live in Republican states may be more favorable to Republicans, but as of now, most Asians still live in Democrat states, and vote like other blue staters.
Plus, this is what's been going on for centuries. Some group comes to form the core of a party. How you feel about that group comes to define the political system. And if you're not a part of the group you tend to vote for the other party.
A lot of Asians think of Republicans as the party of White Evangelicals and because they're not that, they vote for the other party. Same way it was with the Irish and the (original) Jews.
“We are talking about Chinese predomitantly.”
Precisely, if any one people on earth are used to big, centralized, all-caring, all-knowing government, it’s the Han.
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