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1 posted on 11/24/2012 9:28:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s amazing how people will stand in line for hours for black Friday, football games, concerts, the latest iphone, etc. but could care less aboiut voting.

The mentality of this nation has gone to sh!t. Completely.


2 posted on 11/24/2012 9:30:49 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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This writer essentially verifies Romney's “47%” comment and his “free stuff” comment as being correct.
3 posted on 11/24/2012 9:35:31 AM PST by stylin19a (obama -> Fredo smart)
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I am concerned that the bedrock belief in free enterprise that was taken for granted in our youth may now be mostly gone. It is not hard to see why that might be the case, since all of the organs of our culture, from the public schools to the television networks to the comedy industry to Hollywood to higher education to the women’s magazines have been diligently working to undermine faith in economic freedom for several decades now.

And, of course, the problem is compounded by the fact that increasing numbers of Americans live outside the free economy, either as public employees or as dependents on government benefits.

In other words, America is dead and gone.
I concur. It is every man for himself now. Good luck.

5 posted on 11/24/2012 9:42:04 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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Again and again, this is all BS.

The people were shown the contrast between Obama and Romney. They even had Obama on a Newsweek as the empty chair from the convention.

No, the people in general changed.
Many went on endless welfare, endless unemployment, food stamps or the dole.
Other kids were being gifted through money for college.
Most of the various stimulus went to grow government employee union jobs (especially the worst on earth, the teacher’s union).
At schools teenagers and college kids were given reasons to go out and vote Obama.
OBAMA PHONES.
Our tax money to Auto Unions.

On and on, “THERE WAS AND IS NOW A HUGE COALITION OF THE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR”.
Wasn’t a lack of white people (who should and did know better).
If someone who knew better didn’t go out to vote against Obama and for Romney, then same on them for sure, but in general lots of people don’t pay taxes and get other people’s stuff and we have been dealing with various forms of Santa Clause Democrats for over 40 years. It’s why Republicans went soft, so now what?


7 posted on 11/24/2012 9:47:40 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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About as sound a post-election analysis as I've read.

However, my take is more pessimistic: I look around me at the type of society we've become, and I've concluded that we are no longer a people capable of self-government, at least on a national level. Granted, Mitt Romney had his flaws, and I never counted myself an enthusiastic supporter. His campaign team in particular I thought a bunch of incompetent dolts - which in fact they turned out to be. But for all his faults, Romney was a decent man campaigning on policies that at one time would have been considered the very essence of moderate. And he lost to Barack 0bama, the nakedly anti-American, anti-free enterprise failure. Could any sane, responsible people reelect an incompetent, sinister fraud like Barack 0bama?

No. But a dependent, selfish, morally corrupt people certainly could.

8 posted on 11/24/2012 9:49:36 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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Today, I fear that a great many Americans believe that free enterprise only favors the rich, or something close to that proposition.

Well, given the massive bailouts to the well-connected rich - bailouts that large numbers of politicians in both parties supported - I can't imagine why so many people became cynical towards corporatism. /sarcasm

IMO the key reason so many people simply didn't vote this time is a perception that no matter which guy won, the same crap would keep getting perpetuated.

And this is why it is so vital that the Tea Party maintain its identity apart from the GOP.

12 posted on 11/24/2012 9:55:40 AM PST by dirtboy
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Today, I fear that a great many Americans believe that free enterprise only favors the rich, or something close to that proposition.

Not "the rich", per se, but those who have initiative and talent. Fewer Americans have either, so they lean toward supporting an alternative system with a guaranteed payout.

People no longer see free enterprise as something that can directly benefit them.

13 posted on 11/24/2012 9:56:48 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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I’m sensing a post election slacking of interest, it’s as if the current mood is one of resignation and surrender.


16 posted on 11/24/2012 10:03:11 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment,a Matter of Fact,Not a Matter of Opinion)
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I thought I read the other day that the "missing voters" are a myth.

After tallying all absentee ballots, provisional ballots, etc. Romney actually won more votes than McCain.

Is this incorrect?

17 posted on 11/24/2012 10:04:21 AM PST by what's up
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They have to stop discounting Romneycare. If he had not had Romneycare around his neck, he would not have been radioactive on this site during the primary season. He might well have moved out of his 40% primary election range and swept through the primary season in much better shape. Presumably, not having to attack/defend himself from Republican primary opponents would have saved money to run counter-ads to Obama smears. Even when Obamacare passed some distorted constitutional test in Roberts’ mind by his declaring it a “tax,” Romney was never able to pick up that ax and swing it, though initially from what leaked out ,there was some wavering in the camp to do just that. You really can’t find out from exit polls the reasons that people stayed home, only the reasons for the people who showed up voting as they did. Obamacare was the biggest political issue of the past four years and could have been far more and better exploited by another candidate. I believe that would have pulled millions more to the polls. I also believe Mormonism did hurt Romney, but not in the “evangelicals won’t vote for a Mormon” hypothesis. It was “I really hate it when those Mormon missionaries “ come around the neighborhood crowd. Door- to- door and approach -on -the- street salemanship and evangelism are important to many groups, but they are going to turn off the great majority of people like almost nothing else in everyday life does. I know the visceral “Yeccch” I experience when I’m approached by Jehovah’s witnesses or people trying to sell me siding at the buyer’s club. The very week several years ago that an Islamic extremist murdered a pregnant Jewish women in an attack at a Seattle synogogue, I heard a caller on local call-in show who identified herself as Jewish, complain not of Moslem terror, but of born again proselytizing. Again , I’m not criticizing either side of that transaction, but there is collateral political damage.


18 posted on 11/24/2012 10:05:40 AM PST by gusopol3
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6-9 million white voters missing

assuming the gop make up 40% of those voting.. that would be about 56m

i said early on... 10-15% of the right will never vote for a mormon due to the differences in religion

that equates to 5.6 - 8.4m people... or 6-9 million if you round

(how much do they pay these political advisers again?)


29 posted on 11/24/2012 10:34:32 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Vote destruction of Romney votes, focused primarily in the Swing States and primarily by 0bama's unions. Electronic voting machines cannot be trusted, especially with groups seeking to avoid a Romney presidency, such as 'Anonymous'. I do not, cannot and absolutely WILL NOT believe that Romney had less of a turn out of white voters than Bush did. Sorry. I followed the election then, and this one now. Enthusiasm for Romney was significant. The desire to boot 0bama's ass out of office was even MORE significant.

We've been 'HAD', as they say. Never trust an INELIGIBLE president and a FRAUD with a STOLEN birth certificate, STOLEN social security numbers and FORGED selective service card to allow an election to transpire honestly and without corruption, meddling and FRAUD.

The biggest FRAUD ever perpetrated on the American people is 0bama and his presidency. The second biggest FRAUD ever is the 2012 election, RIGGED by our government and their puppet unions. We want to believe that our election was free and fair. What's free and fair when the DOJ AG Eric Holder pursues ANYONE seeking to implement Voter I.D. laws? Hmmmm.. I wonder why 0bama pushed Early Voting and CRUSHING anyone who wanted voters to prove who they were at the polls? This election was a CROCK OF B.S. and more of the same from the CRIMINAL REGIME.

34 posted on 11/24/2012 10:47:39 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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I do think that a lot of it was just that the social conservatives either decided that they could not support a Mormon or that Romney did not share their values, and they just decided not to vote. If that is the case, then they just committed political suicide. Romney’s defeat really marks the end of social conservatism as a viable political movement. In the next 4 years, Obama will appoint at least 2 and maybe 3 Supreme Court justices, all of which will be of the hard left variety, like Sotomayor and Kagan. Once he’s done, the liberals are going to steamroll over the entire conservative social agenda, flattening it like a pancake, and constitutionalizing the entire liberal social agenda. I suppose once that happens, people like Ryan and Santorum can talk about conservative social issues if they want, but there won’t be anything they can do to implement them.


37 posted on 11/24/2012 10:58:01 AM PST by Brilliant
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I wonder how many of the missing votes were ballots (mostly conservative) cast by the military but not counted in time.


41 posted on 11/24/2012 11:08:58 AM PST by tbw2
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Mitt is a Mormon, not a Christian.
Mitt is a RINO, not a conservative.
Mitt is a white guy, not a negro like obammy.
Instead of choosing Rubio which would have garnered at least a few Latin votes he chose A conservative white guy that brought squat in votes.
And I really like Ryan, would have preferred him in the top spot and maybe Mitt as county dog catcher or maybe heading up dept of bidness.


45 posted on 11/24/2012 11:34:19 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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One more time. They aren’t missing. They did vote. Their votes just were not counted. Again, I have been voting in the same building in VA for 20 years. I have NEVER waited in line until this last election. There was a line out to the street ALL DAY. Yet they claim there were less voters than in 2008. Bullshit.


49 posted on 11/24/2012 12:33:22 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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The voters who showed up on Election Day identified more closely with Obama than Romney...yeah, like those who voted for Saint FDR identified more closely with him - once upon a time voters wanted someone to look up to, someone perceived to be more competent and perceptive than the man in the street - now they want someone "like" themselves - all very bizarre.....
50 posted on 11/24/2012 12:41:51 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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http://blip.tv/davidhorowitztv/bill-whittle-6444929


52 posted on 11/24/2012 1:07:22 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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well, Reagan spoke of hope for all...the left and all segments of the economy, not just the middle class like Romney spoke of. He dod not isolate democrat voters and diss them either! He tried to bring them in and did!..many of them. We had the worst candidate again. We had better close all future primaries too ALL but republicans asap.


58 posted on 11/24/2012 2:16:09 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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