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Levin rips Kristol over tax hikes: ‘Stop talking like the lib you used to be’
Daily Caller ^ | Nov 20 2012 | Daily Caller

Posted on 11/21/2012 10:48:09 PM PST by WilliamIII

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To: One Name; WilliamIII; Graybeard58; GeronL

>>Simplify the tax codes; let every free man know where he stands, and what he must do to succeed. An ever-shifting landscape of blame invites disaster.

Yes. My proposal would eliminate the IRS and the income tax completely. The government needs to get out of the “social engineering via taxes” business and get back to its very limited role.

Levin is spot on with his analysis.


21 posted on 11/22/2012 5:30:02 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: WilliamIII
I agree with Kristol but for different reasons.

This "tax the rich - make them pay their fair share" mantra is obamski's war cry. It speaks directly to the mis-guided emotions of the idiots in this country and gives them a villian to hate while diverting blame from where it belongs. It has been obscenely effective.

The left is counting on the GOP digging in its heels on this and will use it as a broom to sweep the House in 2014...thereby giving obamski both houses and full rein to pass utterly destructive laws in his final half term. The damage a leftist potus, senate and house could and would do would be life-threatening.

Increasing taxes on those with income over $250K (yes, I am in that group) would do virtually nothing to fix the economy and would likely make the jobs situation worse.

But, it would neuter the war cry and take that arrow out of their quiver for 2014.

And, the truth is that unless they strip away a boatload of deductions guys like me will still use the laws to pay little or no tax.

22 posted on 11/22/2012 5:34:17 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: WilliamIII

First, Bill Kristol can’t raise anyone’s tax rate. He’s TALKING, not doing. We understand that raising the tax rates on the wealthy is not a good idea. We also just lost an election. As a matter of fact, there will be more Democrat Senators in a couple of months. They can raise the tax rate. It could be that Kristol is a communist, but I don’t think so. I think he’s looking at this strategically. If we keep losing elections to the Democrats, it won’t matter what any Republican thinks about tax rates. The Democrats will force their ideas through based on winning elections. I think Kristol is trying to use Judo on the Democrats. Use your opponent’s attack against him. Pelosi has been out three times this past week yammering about raising taxes on the rich. Take her attack and don’t match your energy against hers. Direct her energy to the ground. She wants us to raise a big fuss over this and then she turns to the media and the Democrat voters and says, “See! The Republicans only care about the rich!” We lose big in the 2014 elections and the tax rates go up because they controlled the argument.


23 posted on 11/22/2012 6:04:12 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: WilliamIII

“Among the others who I think it’s time just to go someplace and talk among yourselves, would be Bill Kristol,” Levin said. “I don’t know what he’s added to anything other than giving aid and comfort to Obama’s attack on capitalism and successful people. This has to be the 40th time he’s said something on this.”

HOORAY Mark!


24 posted on 11/22/2012 6:15:05 AM PST by PGalt
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To: wtc911

My income is over 250k and I know of no legal and economically efficient way of sheltering it from income taxes. Maybe you have effective tax minimization strategies, but I don’t. I am the one that needs protection from Obama.


25 posted on 11/22/2012 6:16:18 AM PST by impimp
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To: WilliamIII

BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM. DEFUND their collectives. DISMANTLE their collectives. DEPOPULATE them from the body politic.

Some of the damage socialists have inflicted on “we the people” without recourse or consequences...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Pay, pensions and perks of all legislators past and present rescinded for not reducing/eliminating the debt.

(...it is a moral crime to give money to support ideas with which you disagree; it means: ideas which you consider wrong, false, evil. It is a moral crime to give money to support your own destroyers. - “The Sanction of the Victims”, TOF, April 1982.7.)

“—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

Alter it.


26 posted on 11/22/2012 6:20:05 AM PST by PGalt
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To: WilliamIII
The Libs really, really want this - it's a pecker measuring contest. So offer it to them, tied to a measure that reduces the Federal Budget by 20% per year over the next 4 years and removes the 'Baseline' thing. Just put the whole deal out there and see what they do. Surely everyone, including Libs wants to reduce the Budget (aka the deficit production engine.)
27 posted on 11/22/2012 6:57:04 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: impimp
I do not mean this to sound flippant at all but you need a better CPA and an advisor who can steer you toward beneficial investments. Use every single legal deduction, for example, if one coaches little league then he may legally deduct the mileage cost to and from every practice, meeting and game. It's a small thing but there are hundreds of small things that add up.

And, if the GOP draws the line here then obamski will absolutely get the congress he wants in 2014 and the increase he wants now will look like chickenfeed compared to what they would impose without any opposition.

28 posted on 11/22/2012 6:57:55 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

I only have 1 source of income - my job. This is what limits my opportunity to minimize my taxes.


29 posted on 11/22/2012 7:12:40 AM PST by impimp
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To: generally

Tax revenue raised should fund necessary and constitutional government. Period. Not Planned Parenthood, not private organizations like ACORN etc. If its not part of governments core constitutional functions, it should not be funded.


30 posted on 11/22/2012 7:15:26 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: impimp
With that income you should be diversified...owning rental properties generates cash flow while delivering a boatload of deductions.

My investment property strategy involves buying smaller properties that are in good school districts near LIRR stations and/or hospitals.

The one exception to this rule is that we bought a potential retirement condo on a golf course in Arizona. We rent it out and take the deductions. We may or may not use it ourselves later on but for now it is not only paying for itself but generating about 18% per annum.

This has been fruitful for the past two decades or so but changes in how income from such sources will be taxed might make it less attractive as a new venture.

At the very least you should have a fat Roth IRA.

31 posted on 11/22/2012 8:15:49 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

I appreciated your tips. Unfortunately I am a tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. Because of this I have been avoiding 401k and other types of registered money because I fear that the government will confiscate it and/or change the rules to make me regret doing it in the first place. Something like that happened in Canada years ago such that capital gains wound up being better outside of registered retirement funds than inside, from a tax perspective.


32 posted on 11/22/2012 8:20:33 AM PST by impimp
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To: WilliamIII

When I heard Kristol make that statement on Fox, my mouth dropped open. The guy oozes sleaze and is clueless besides. What does a GOP-e know about the Tea Pary, anyhow? How dare he presume what we would, or would not, care about?


33 posted on 11/22/2012 8:27:24 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: WilliamIII

I’m inclined to agree with Krystol on this. Most of the very rich do reside on the east coast and California. Hey this is what they voted for then feel free. In fact I’d be in favor for a 90% tax on every millionaire in Hollywood. Also if they want to power NYC and Malbu on %100 solar and wind go for it. Limit the kind of cars they can drive. Give them what they good and hard.


34 posted on 11/22/2012 8:37:56 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: Artie
Artie said: I don’t want any more tax increases or “new taxes” until spending is cut significantly.

I wouldn't consider cuts to be "significant" until they eliminate all the programs that our federal government has no business doing.

That includes ALL welfare, social security, most "scientific studies", sugar subsidies, and a myriad of other nonsense. My view of what the federal government should be doing is completely consistent with the idea that federal taxes are way too high right now. There is absolutely no justification for raising anybody's taxes.

35 posted on 11/22/2012 12:36:29 PM PST by William Tell
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blueunicorn6 said: "We also just lost an election. As a matter of fact, there will be more Democrat Senators in a couple of months. They can raise the tax rate. "

The House is still in Republican hands. The only tax rate increases that are assured are those that were already passed by a prior Republican House and are part of the "fiscal cliff".

This House might change hands in 2014 if the libs and media are successful at blaming the Republicans for the coming collapse.

36 posted on 11/22/2012 12:42:59 PM PST by William Tell
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