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Israel Sends Hamas 36-Hour Ultimatum
IsraelNationalNews ^ | 11/19/2012 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 11/19/2012 12:11:58 AM PST by bruinbirdman

Diplomatic message to Egypt: Hamas terrorism must cease by Tuesday evening or we step up attack.

Israel has delivered an ultimatum to Hamas through Egypt, according to which the IDF will widen its offensive in Gaza in 36 hours unless Hamas ceases firing rockets and smuggling arms into Gaza, IDF Radio reported Monday morning.

Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz told the station that the time left before Israel steps up its attack can be measured in "hours, not days."

"We are at a junction," he said. "Either we go toward a calm or toward a meaningful widening of the operation… including a possible move to achieve complete military decision."


Tank soldier in prayer.

There are ongoing contacts between Israel and Hamas through intermediaries, IDF Radio said, but the gaps between the sides are still very large. According to reports in Cairo, Hamas demands a complete removal of the blockade on Gaza, an IDF commitment to stop crossing the security fence into Gaza and a cessation of targeted killings.

Israel, for its part, demands that Hamas cease firing rockets into Israel for a period of "several years" and a cessation of arms smuggling into Gaza. Israel agrees to Hamas's demand that the Rafiah crossing into Egypt be opened, but refuses to open crossings into Israel.

Hamas official Moussa Abu Marzuk said that Hamas will not agree to Israel's demands for a "security belt" on Gaza's eastern side, and a cessation of smuggling through the tunnels.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; idf; israel; rockets; ultimatum
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To: ScottinVA

Israel should never have given up the Gaza to begin with.


21 posted on 11/19/2012 5:39:52 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: bruinbirdman

It’s 3:36 pm in Israel right now.


22 posted on 11/19/2012 5:41:19 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Netz

Obama FORGETS, with that of both Hamas and the MB is that the God of the Holy Bible DOES have Israel’s back.


23 posted on 11/19/2012 5:42:46 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Neither Egypt nor any of the other Arab states wants the Palestinians. In their ranking of people, Palis are at the bottom of the list, lower even than Pakistanis or Bangladeshis


24 posted on 11/19/2012 5:43:06 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: bruinbirdman

No way they can close those terms. War.


25 posted on 11/19/2012 5:48:23 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: bruinbirdman

“There are ongoing contacts between Israel and Hamas through intermediaries, IDF Radio said, but the gaps between the sides are still very large.”

Negotiating with Hamas, Terrorists, Jihadists, Islamists call them what you will is fruitless. It’s only for show to the rest of the World that they, the Israeli’s tried to work it out. The only time one of those Jihadist, those Muslim organizations will negotiate is if they need time to rearm, or gather more women, and children to hide behind, and then it’s all a lie on their part no matter what they say. They cannot, and should not ever be trusted, and I say this NOT to the Israeli’s, ‘cause they know already, but to the idiots in the rest of the World that might think Muslim’s are civilized.

Perhaps there are some Muslims some might know, and personally like, but take note they are selling you cigarettes, booze, and the like in hopes you kill yourself, or they are selling a homeland oil based product of gasoline, which benefits their cause. (sorta /S)


26 posted on 11/19/2012 5:49:25 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I have two suggestions.

1. Give Gaza to Egypt. Let them deal with the terrorists. This way any rocket launch and Egypt will have to deal with the consequences.

2. Complete military trashing of Gaza and push all their residents into Egypt. Like what happened with the PLO being forced to Lebanon.

3. Bomb every tunnel so arms cannot be smuggled in and let it go at that. Plus kill all Hamas leadership worldwide.

'zat you, Joe?

27 posted on 11/19/2012 5:50:55 AM PST by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: bankwalker

Pay no attention to the whacky VP behind the curtain.


28 posted on 11/19/2012 5:56:04 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (George W. Bush is the Emmanuel Goldsten of the modern era.)
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To: Biggirl
Well, for starters, Obama is an empty shirt and we all know that. In the Middle East he is detested and NOT RESPECTED. This is a very crucial point. The Muslims hated George Bush Sr. and Jr. BUT...they respected their use of force. Obama THINKS he is respected by the Arabs and the Israelis when in fact he is not. He THINKS he needs to show solidarity with Israel (even though we all know he's a faker) and at the same time licking the butts of the Muslim Brotherhood. Just as he thinks by coming down hard on those that would defame Islam he will be liked and respected in the Muslim world his image could not be further from the truth. So again, he THINKS he must save face when in fact, it is too late> You can count on him to do the wrong thing repeatedly.
29 posted on 11/19/2012 6:11:36 AM PST by Netz (Netz)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Benjamin Netanyahu is my president !

No unfortunately your President is Barack Obama unless you are an Israeli FREEPING from Israel...lol.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 6:12:25 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Biggirl
Israel should never have given up the Gaza to begin with.

I totally agree. Send the filth across to Egypt, delouse and reduce to rubble what remains, clear it and populate it with humans.

31 posted on 11/19/2012 6:15:51 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Looks bad—Hamas can not agree without losing face. Obama will stop Israel even if he must send in Marines to guard and protect Gaza.

If barry does anything like that, I predict God to unleash on the U.S., in the form of MAJOR unrecoverable natural disasters.
32 posted on 11/19/2012 6:17:58 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: MaxMax
Hamas demands Israel open up so they can Kill Jews easier. I wonder which side the MSM will take.

As well as American Jews... Oh, wait.. we already know that answer.

33 posted on 11/19/2012 6:18:17 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Biggirl
Obama FORGETS, with that of both Hamas and the MB is that the God of the Holy Bible DOES have Israel’s back.

I'm pretty sure that's not mentioned in barry's Koran. So, he wouldn't know that.
34 posted on 11/19/2012 6:20:56 AM PST by crosshairs (Hurricane Barry is 1000 times more destructive than Hurricane Sandy.)
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To: bankwalker

“One four-letter word describes our goal in the Mideast, and that is P-E-A-C-E!”

—Joe Biden


35 posted on 11/19/2012 6:24:22 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Netz

That is why I consider him to be (Obama), a weakling, not the anti-Christ despite what some Christians think.


36 posted on 11/19/2012 6:25:27 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: crosshairs

......Well, the ONLY HOLY BOOK I go with is THE HOLY BOOK, THE GREATEST BOOK of them all, the BIBLE.


37 posted on 11/19/2012 6:27:21 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Exactly. What was the logic in Israel giving up Gaza?


38 posted on 11/19/2012 6:33:30 AM PST by sarasota
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To: ScottinVA

The rabbinical advisors of Agudath Israel of America have asked that everyone recite, in this order, Psalms 83, 130 and 142 every day that the crisis continues.


39 posted on 11/19/2012 6:42:09 AM PST by Ryn
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To: Biggirl
Obama’s entire “aura” is a projection of weakness (abroad)which gets back to my initial point of him being detested in the Middle East (and around the world by now). There has not been a lame, weakling like Obama. Even Carter looks better in retrospect. Hard for me to say that but yes, gulp*, Obama is the weakest US President we've ever seen - and at such a critical time in history...
40 posted on 11/19/2012 6:48:28 AM PST by Netz (Netz)
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