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Yep, it's all the fault of the conservatives...not Romney or his chaotic campaign. Figures.
1 posted on 11/18/2012 11:48:29 AM PST by greyfoxx39
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“I mean these immigrants who come across and what they do wrong is they risk their lives, they come here and they work because they want to be part of the American Dream.”

What an asshat. What they do wrong is ILLEGALLY enter the country. Their first act when setting foot on American soil is BREAKING THE LAW.

They want nothing to do with the American dream. If they did then they would apply for LEGAL citizenship, become American citizens and then be welcomed to pursue the American dream which, because of them, has turned into an American nightmare for actual citizens who must compete with them for jobs and watch their taxes go to support these disgusting locusts.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 12:03:43 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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The Federalist Party is being born.......


30 posted on 11/18/2012 12:05:13 PM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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The republican party is and has been dead for decades. RR gave it a chance to survive but the GOPe staged a coup. They can kiss my fat, hairy...b...big toe!

The arrogance was on display early in the election when the GOPe, many here, proclaimed conservatives like me would come around.

Yeah I supported them and what good did it do? They didn’t care about a conservative agenda. They cared about compromise, reaching across the aisle, getting along.

NEVER, EVER, EVER ... WILL WE BE TOGETHER!


32 posted on 11/18/2012 12:06:35 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution togethetr as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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I wonder what tune they would be singing if the entire “right wing” of the Party stayed home and didn’t vote at all?


33 posted on 11/18/2012 12:06:55 PM PST by Slyfox
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If I have the quote right Reagan said do not comprise on principles, however you can make concessions on the details.

These plebes want to bend over and say "Yes Sir, can I have another" with McCain and Grahmnasty and the sad part of it is they would enjoy it.

What is worse, their version of compromise is now the status qou for the E-GOP and enabled by the Chattering Class that these RINOS try to bolster their weak Self Esteem by getting invited on their shows and eating their green room Sunday Morning Cucumber Sandwiches.

And you wonder why I keep screaming to make our Divorce from the E-GOP final?

36 posted on 11/18/2012 12:10:30 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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Romney was my 4th choice, after Sarah, Herman and Newt. The last campaign contribution was to Cain.

The establishment picked the candidate...and I came to hear him..a very good and decent man he remains.

However, if the “party” thinks we need to become more moderate, they are dead wrong.

Republican country clubbers picked the candidate and excluded much of their own base. No Sarah, No Herman, no Newt at the convention.

THAT is the bigger problem, not that we want to exclude any minorities. We believe in the law being applied equally..and oh by the way.. UPHELD! What a concept.


39 posted on 11/18/2012 12:11:09 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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So say you.

Cheers!

40 posted on 11/18/2012 12:11:19 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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We lost because Romney’s advisors. Way to try to blame everyone else, Romney. The RNC allowed an extreme left-wing liberal with a history of it to run on the ticket.


42 posted on 11/18/2012 12:11:41 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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Any conservative wanting to help the cause of conservatism should register as an independent immediately.

Once the Republican party completes burning itself out, a new American party can be born.


45 posted on 11/18/2012 12:14:44 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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Heh.

Look, this might be the thought of what one asswipe says.

Romney’s assessment is a bit more accurate: Obama’s giveaways.

Ignore this assclown Guiterrez.


46 posted on 11/18/2012 12:15:27 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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What the GOP thinks is no longer relevent in any way, shape or form.


48 posted on 11/18/2012 12:16:10 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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This Carlos Gutierrez idiot uses the usual ploy of substituting “immigrants” when the subject is foreign nationals who decide to move to the United States in violation of our laws.

They are foreign nationals, citizens of other countries, illegal aliens. They are not “immigrants”.

Of course to a racialist who believes that his own ethnic group should have the right to ignore any laws that they don’t find convenient this comes naturally.

And the La Raza supremacy crowd is finding a lot of allies in the open borders/treason wing of the GOP and with some dimwits in the conservative media.

I wonder if Hannity will invite Carlos on so that the two of them can crow about how we need to have Comprehensive Immigration Reform, the same vile idea that we beat down when Dubya, the illegal aliens’ best friend, tried to ram it through.


49 posted on 11/18/2012 12:19:43 PM PST by Pelham (America, 1775-2012)
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BS. The American people were not allowed to select their own candidate; not once, but twice. Two candidates who did not have a chance. Both were at the bottom of the list of candidates who suddenly became our candidate. Both miraculously came alive near the end of the race to make us believe we could win. The truth is McCain had already thrown the race. Btw, one of the main reasons McCain was chosen was he may have had a problem with his birth certificate as does Obama. I suspect Romney threw the race too; but may have been forced too. Both of these men had to survive for whatever reasons their careers. Both have proven records of doing not what is right for America or its people. The Democrats have proven records of never doing anything for their country or its people. It’s for one world government with the people of the world as slaves.


51 posted on 11/18/2012 12:20:09 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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With each passing day I am losing any of what little remains of my hope.

Not because of the libs. I know they are what they are. Not because of the GOP. Because this election season and fallout proved yet again what I already well understood.

What finishes me is that many of the supposed rock ribbed right are so F’ing stupid that in light of statements by the GOP T E L L I N G these people to their face (via tv and media) that conservative ideas and candidates are the problem/cause of our losses, they still come to sites like FR and say

“Well we gotta win back the party and we gotta support them cuz there’s nowhere else to go...”

...and any of a number of other statements that qualify them as Stockholm Syndrome club members.

Folks, these people are our problem. These people help the GOP keep us un the GOP reservation every bit as much as the dems do with black voters. And I defy any of the GOP fanboy/girls here to explain in public detail how I am wrong if they think they can spin it.

Until the right wing of the now fully democrat GOP walks away and stops fighting a thoroughly corrupted party, we will only continue the country’s march to the right.

Period.


56 posted on 11/18/2012 12:23:01 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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Expecting voters to know what’s going on and their reliance on MSM is just part of why our great loss. While there are examples of fraud which may close up the gap, the gap is too big to blame the loss on fraud ..

.Expecting GOP E’s to redress media bias. or divert their agenda or have Romney call Obama a congenital liar (let alone a socialist) or even point out that the fact and figures released by the white house were allways questionable is another . But the fault lies really in the messaging the Republican campaign gave.choking on political correctness parameters devised by the socialist party known as Democrat ..

Romney ran a “Johnny One Note Campaign”. Used a poison dart blow gun when he should have used a cannon loaded with grape shot because he had pleanty of stuff he could fill that cannon barrel with..

They failed to hammer away on what will happen when Obama gets returned; The Obama past due 2013/14 Tax Increases. The impact of Obama’s choking energy policies requiring reliance on intermittent sources wind and solar ,restricted drilling, use of coal ,ban on fracking, and that related price..(a socialist construct never branded as such) was a bread and butter issue which reached into every “demographics” pocketbook..Beside reminding voters of the rampant corruption accompanying it because of previous positions on GW global warming or “Romneycare”.

Along with the impact of Supreme Court Appointments.. 18,000 new IRS agents and on and on. Including rampant corruption . Some were very briefly touched most weren’t and Benghazi was left to languish. Then there is Obama’s personal extravagance and behavior refusing to visit Nashville after its disaster showing up at New Orleans after Mitt visited it.

Instead we got a sales pitch on executive ability but not the reason why one should toss the old model and buy his. That print and tv pitch , 20 million new jobs, was given a discrarded dose of skepticism .

In addition Rove who I understand was handling the Charter PAC senate campaign played games. His material never warned voters that IF OBAMA GETS RE-ELECTED AND SENATE CONTROL REMAINED . .. OBAMACARE AND ALL THE TAX INCREASES THAT GO WITH IT WILL NEVER GET REPEALED Let alone tie into or cover the formentioned grape shot which would have perhaps changed that body. I don’t recall any of that material directed toward that fact.

Finally they didn’t believe the polls which turned out were dead on. Even going as far as setting up focus groups which could have looked into what’s going on . Even to the point of going out to local eateries and bars and eavesdrop into conversations and pick up on topics being discussed.(chat rooms twitter too contrived)

Our local small population (-8000) rural blue county GOP had at the outset good and growing attendence at their meetings 50 plus. At the meeting the Thursday before the election only about a dozen people showed up and I knew we were in trouble .

Nuts...This loss is inexcuseable. While I truly don’t believe Mitt Romney would ever continence losing, I’m begining to believe many GOPE’s didn’t want to see the AHCA known as ZerO care stay on the books...


59 posted on 11/18/2012 12:24:43 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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You lost because of massive voter fraud, you bunch of whimps!
60 posted on 11/18/2012 12:25:23 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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These repulsive bastards. All campaign-long, they spit on the conservative base! And now they blame them for the loss. I’m sick to death of these loathesome cretins of the GOP-E, which have a strangehold on the Party. Abject scum!!

Give me a new party. I can’t take these POS crapweasels. I can’t share a party with them anymore. They refused to allow the words “tea party” even be uttered at the convention; they spent four years trashing and smearing Palin; they treat social conservatives like crap, and neither show any true interest in fiscal restraint; they dutifully bow down to the lib media every damned time; And now of course they blame conservatives for their failures! Vile, dishonorable scum.


61 posted on 11/18/2012 12:25:59 PM PST by greene66
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What nonsense - that this adviser is advancing because the conservative voters did not even support Romney! Notice how the pejorative Far Right is used. The term Far Right is enemy propaganda aimed at vilifying folks who have conservative values. By their standards the Founding Fathers would be described a Far Right. I think we should promote a slogan: Just Right [ as in correct ] not Far Right.


62 posted on 11/18/2012 12:26:18 PM PST by Republican1795.
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If they have a wish to never ever win another election, all they have to do is push amnesty. Or abortion. Or homo sexual marriage. Or socialist healthcare. It will definitely be curtains for the GOP. We don’t need two godless socialist parties, though we’re pretty close to that already. Damned the statist GOP-e!!


63 posted on 11/18/2012 12:26:31 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Mister Gutierrez is disengenuous at best.

He starts out lamenting Mitt Romney’s statement about Obama “gifts” and slides from there - Mitt Romney, who is totally NOT part of the “far right” - into blaming the “far right” of the GOP.

Another Bush-RINO and part of the GOP-elite looking for scapegoats for THEIR preferred candidate - Romney.

I will keep repeating this until Romney and his advisors get the message: “Hey Mitt; quit allowing political pundits and your ‘insiders’ to continue to publicly scapegoat everyone but you and your own team. You and your team need to look yourselves in the mirror and find the real faults for your loss in your campaign and what it did and did not do. Obama lost many millions of voters from 2008. All you had to do was to do better than John McCain.”


64 posted on 11/18/2012 12:27:13 PM PST by Wuli
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