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***If Rep. Peter King Is Right, Then Maybe Petraeus..."
stardate: 1211.16

Posted on 11/16/2012 2:08:57 PM PST by The Wizard

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1 posted on 11/16/2012 2:09:00 PM PST by The Wizard
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I offer this for your discussion


2 posted on 11/16/2012 2:09:44 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: The Wizard

I think I’m pretty sure I agree with you.


3 posted on 11/16/2012 2:12:52 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen (we are so screwed - ^_^)
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Plain as the nose on your face that’s the gist of the story. I only wish he had not give false testimony in the earlier hearing. We’ll be hearing more about that flip flop in days to come. The General will have to admit to being blackmailed for that to go away.


4 posted on 11/16/2012 2:14:11 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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Wasn’t the General dancing pretty close to the perjury line, with his conflicting testimony?


5 posted on 11/16/2012 2:17:09 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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Obama is tying up every loose end in the Libya affair, and no one seems to care what kind of a stink it raises. Has half the country sold their souls to the devil or something? The media wants us to think it doesn’t matter, and everyone should just mind their own business, pretend nothing happened. It’s got to be that, or group think, brainwashing, something.


6 posted on 11/16/2012 2:18:16 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: The Wizard

There was probably no overt threat or blackmail.

When a person has compromised themselves in their conduct, the loss of virtue produces a guilt and protective attitude and paranoia. The person becomes highly cooperative to those with authority and intiment knowledge of them.

The slightest wiff that “this is what is expected of him” places the person having lost their virtues in the protective mode and makes their compliance automatic.

By appointing him with these problems, Obama assured himself a compliant partner in his efforts and a fall guy when one was needed or in the event of non-compliance.

We are probably not going to hear that someone called him and said, General, you better say....______ or we will do X. Obama is not going to have a smoking gun here.

I see other requests during the investigation to be the answer as I have posted elsewhere:

I think it boils down to five requests to confirm the administrations assertion that they “did everything they could” to help the Americans involved.

1. Provide the directives for those at the Consulate — who sent them and why.

2. Show what communications were sent requesting what actions by those that sent them as demonstrated by item 1.

3. Provide the Cross Border Authorization as signed by the President.

4. Have each recieving agency that could take action on #3 show their action orders or explain why they ignored the President.

5, Ask for the written corrective actions issued by the President to thoose parties who failed to act on his Cross Border Authorizations.

Short and Sweet — they can’t provide any of it — they left them there to die.


7 posted on 11/16/2012 2:20:53 PM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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I listened to King today and he made plain that Patreaus’ assertions that his testimony today was no different than that prior testimony were not true, that he, King, remembers it differently.

A polite way of calling Petraeus a fibber but I’m sure they tape these things. If your theory is correct than Petreaus is depending that those in today’s hearing won’t bring up lying under oath charges, if applicable, I dunno.

At the least the pubs (AND Dems-prolly the ones to fear) can echo a mantra about lying now or lying then.

I think you’re right but if you are, I want Petraeus to tell us more, to tell us just how the admin blackmailed him/inferred revelations of personal errors. I want Petraeus all the things he knows, everything he knows, cause I think he knows lots.

IF you are right we shouldn’t be able to shut the man up.

Think about it.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 2:21:59 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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Well, duh! The disturbing thing to me is that as bad as the lying about whether it was a terrorist attack or not is, that’s nothing compared to the real crime: the stand down order that left a handful of brave Americans fighting off over 100 al Qaeda fighters for over eight hours with no backup, resulting in the loss of four lives. The initial failure to take precautions is the second worst part of it, and then the lying afterwards. Now, however, we’re either focused on a totally irrelevant factor — the affair — or the least damaging part of the scandal — the lying.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 2:23:48 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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Odumbo just wants everyone to think like Geraldo Riveria that there is an illogical explanation for the changes made to the talking points memeo. Lets see is it group think no - it is propaganda - a lie told enough times it is supposed to believed as the truth. odumbo a trained liar (lawyer) does not view anything as the truth unless he has told it himself. Oddly enough Odumo is a fool without any knowledge of history and he is doomed to failureo keep lying and lying again about the lies thast he first told because he has knowledge of the lies he is telling.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 2:26:53 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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This has been my suspicion since I first heard Petraeus resigned. In fact my first post on a thread on the matter was just that. He was blackmailed into supporting the lies being told by obama and his gang and now that he put all his dirty laundy out in the open they had nothing over him anymore and he would tell the truth when he testified.

The letter that he wrote to his people at CIA was very telling. Nobody ever admits to having an affair to their subordinates in that public manner.

11 posted on 11/16/2012 2:27:05 PM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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well, he was against the terrorist attack meme before he was for it......


12 posted on 11/16/2012 2:29:43 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: KoRn

No perjury. I don’t believe he testified under oath.


13 posted on 11/16/2012 2:31:25 PM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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I don’t think he was under oath the first time.


14 posted on 11/16/2012 2:31:49 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Obama is tying up every loose end in the Libya affair, and no one seems to care what kind of a stink it raises. Has half the country sold their souls to the devil or something? The media wants us to think it doesn’t matter, and everyone should just mind their own business, pretend nothing happened. It’s got to be that, or group think, brainwashing, something.


Waco/ Clinton come to mind.....


15 posted on 11/16/2012 2:32:18 PM PST by patriotspride
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>> I think you’re right but if you are, I want Petraeus to tell us more, to tell us just how <<

He will when his book comes out early next year...


16 posted on 11/16/2012 2:34:04 PM PST by TrumpisRight (President Palin sounds so good....)
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I have thought about that possibility myself. But you know what? None of that matters now. Petraeus was in a crucial position and totally f****d things up. Whatever conspiracy to bring him down that this administration may have concocted, Petraeus made the choice to give them the ammo. He didn't have to have an affair. And whether or not this woman was an agent provocateur from Obama's camp, Petraeus had the choice to reject her.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

17 posted on 11/16/2012 2:40:49 PM PST by 60Gunner (Fight with your head high, or crawl with your head low so you can dodge the bullets.)
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That was my thought from the day he resigned. I believe Krauthammer thinks it likely too, though he’s been dancing all around it.


18 posted on 11/16/2012 2:41:11 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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IMPEACH the communist filth. If Newt were still around, he’d go for the jugular. Boehner will just invite him to play golf.


19 posted on 11/16/2012 2:48:18 PM PST by crusader71
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I don’t know why they bother with such testimony when it isn’t under oath.


20 posted on 11/16/2012 2:51:15 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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