Posted on 11/16/2012 12:03:01 PM PST by SargeK
A top Iraqi diplomat urged Arab states to use the weapon of oil against the United States because of its alliance with Israel, raising more questions about the Middle Eastern nation's allegiance to the nation that freed it from a ruthless dictatorship.
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Firstly, Western Europe is not all of Europe. The nations that have supported the Palestinians now are Western European, not Central Europe
Secondly, the men who died to defend it were in terms of numbers firstly European, then Russian then American. WWII was won due to American military supplies to the USSR and to Britain and then due to the Soviets breaking the back of the Germans.
Only Western Europe was liberated at the end of WWII -- for central Europeans the war ended in 1989...
91 was a mistake, the entire war, not just holding back. If we had removed him then, these same problems would have occured 20 years earlier..
yet, imho (see above), this wouldn't have even been necessary if we had stayed away from Gul War I
And you are right that we are stupid now to not support Assad -- let him slaughter the Jihadis fighting agianst him
“for failing to seize control of their oil industry and force repayment of every last cent of our costs of war there.” — we couldn’t do that as Gulf War II was what we started. Gulf war I was a different matter, but the first was a mistake and led to the second
it wasn’t like that when Iraq, Syria, Egypt were Christian....
We occupied the western half. The eastern half was occupied by the Soviets -- abandoned by FDR.
Oh, we couldn’t do that. Remember? Bush said the oil belonged to the Iraqi people. I guess he was too damned dumb to see it was paid for with American blood. I hate that damned deceiver.
Just some thoughts Ive had about the oil situation.
I would suggest the US produce enough domestic oil to bring world prices down to two dollars per gallon. We would make a lot of money on it and severely hurt the current set of oil producing states economically. At the least, we have the ability to manipulate world oil prices too. If they want to try and hurt us, fine, we start producing more to make up the difference. It would help us and hurt them since we dont depend upon the income like they do. We really have a commanding position if we would use oil as a sort of economic Détente weapon.
Did we recently scrap all of our B-1s, B-2s and B-52s or something?
And don’t forget that we told Saddam he could take part of Kuwait. Just another thing Ross Perot was right about.
Actually there are plenty of companies that exploited. Defence companies, government contracts for rebuilding etc..The real question is that is it worth the cost so that these few companies may turn a profit? My answer is a clear and resounding NO.
I really do not know why we bother with the middle east at all, especially with helping muslims in the middle east when their way of life and beliefs stand against everything we as americans stand for. We should save all the christians from the middle east and leave the muslims to rot.
I may be crazy but I think Obama is actually an enemy within the gates, with evil intent to destroy the USA
We aren’t the same nation that did all that any more. We are an obamaphone and food stamp nation of parasites.
People on this thread are getting worked up over what one guy says , forgetting Iraq has opposing parties just as we do. Judging the whole on the basis of this guy is like judging the whole of the United States based upon a glimpse of Detroit.
That's nice.
We all know "third time's a charm", so let's arm the Syrian rabbles and get some boots on the ground. We'll talk nice to them, overlook Iranian subversion, and we'll pump a trillion $'s into building them up to a 20th century power (well, gotta start somewhere). That Libyan fiasco, let's pretend we didn't really help them because the efforts cost under $1 trillion and only had a little "bump in the road" in terms of casualties.
/sarc
No. Leviathan forces must have dominion first, and then demand tribute. Any other way and the Leviathan will fail.
The US should have taken Iraqi oil for 50 years as tribute. Treat them like a satellite state, and subjugate as needed. History is rife with these lessons.
Easy. They just glance at their checkbook balance instead...
If you believe Powell's book, Bush had a UN mandate to expel Saddam from Kuwait and cripple his ability to overrun his neighbors. But, they needed a counterbalance to Iran's belligerence and they needed functioning oil production.
To Powell's credit, he didn't believe in nation building without the political support of the American people and resources on the ground to finish the job.
He said he was willing to follow the president's orders to extend the mission, but he would have been forthright in communicating the cost in lives and treasure.
The US should have taken Iraqi oil for 50 years as tribute. Treat them like a satellite state, and subjugate as needed. History is rife with these lessons.
So true. Our nation's allies must respect America and our enemies must live in constant FEAR of our might.
I've never bought into the idea that peace is the absence of conflict. Instead real peace comes from a strong, fearless America equipped with a military second to none. There's a good reason why the pistol was called the Colt Peacemaker.
The restoration of American Exceptionalism would yield a peaceful Mideast...something approximating this:
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