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Taking Back the Joint
National Review ^ | 11/14/2012 | Betsy Woodruff

Posted on 11/14/2012 8:12:19 AM PST by MadIsh32

Much ink has been spilt in describing the precise nature of the soul-searching the GOP is undergoing in the wake of getting totally shellacked last Tuesday. There are a plethora of suggestions — of varying degrees of helpfulness — as to how the Republican party can re-brand and re-orient itself; ranging from capitulating on taxes to deciding that gay marriage isn’t a hill to die on. But there’s one easy ideological maneuver that Republicans could make that would simultaneously burnish their stance as the party of freedom and expand their base while alienating the president from his. It is a move that might also make one swing state a little easier to win in 2016. Congressional Republicans and conservative leaders could get on the weed bandwagon.

Now, the John Boehners and Mitch McConnells of the world may never win the loyalty of the Choom Gang contingent. But Republicans should rejoice with those who rejoiced when voters in Colorado and Washington passed sensible marijuana policy. Last Tuesday, both states passed ballot measures decriminalizing the recreational use of medical marijuana — and giving the GOP an early Christmas present.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: cannabis; colorado; drugs; drugwar; legalize; mariujana; warondrugs; washington; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

JSNTN: “It’s the only issue I’m aware of where a substantial fraction of FReepers are anti-states’-rights.”

Where do you get that idea? Keep in mind that even if pot was legalized in certain states, the federal government has the constitutional authority to regulate both its importation and use in commerce across state lines. Justice Thomas is the most conservative justice, and I think he speaks for most FReepers on this issue. By using the word, “substantial,” I hope you don’t mean anything approaching a majority of FReepers.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 11:14:27 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: CitizenUSA
It’s the only issue I’m aware of where a substantial fraction of FReepers are anti-states’-rights.

Where do you get that idea?

From posts like the following - admittedly a nonrandom sample, but representing a substantial fraction of FReepers who posted to those threads:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958387/posts?page=3#3
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2956184/posts?page=10#10
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2956184/posts?page=17#17
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2929280/posts?page=7#7
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2929280/posts?page=47#47
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2915299/posts?page=38#38

By using the word, “substantial,” I hope you don’t mean anything approaching a majority of FReepers.

I think they're in the minority - how far short of 50% I wouldn't venture to say.

22 posted on 11/14/2012 12:01:53 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: CitizenUSA
And states' rights is not the only issue here - there's also the gross overstatement of marijuana's harms that does the conservative movement no good - cf. post #15: "I believe pot is the devil."
23 posted on 11/14/2012 12:19:24 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: MadIsh32

there is no taking back the joint. America is over, get used to it. The choices are continue the futile resitance, give up, or separate.

Even if we would have ‘won’ this election, would we really have seen anything substantial rolled back? Even a modest return towards liberty and freedom? No, didn’t happen under Reagan, won’t happen now. All we ever do is slow the descent for a while, we never go back the other way.

It is probably a fantasy, but I fully support secession. It needs to happen before there is nothing left in this country to save. Saving half of it is better than saving none of it.


24 posted on 11/14/2012 12:58:55 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I believe pot distorts thought processes. It creates false sentiments, mental confusion and social disruption. Yes, it is a malicious drug which, like alchohol, requires years to overcome its impact. Legal or illegal its influcence is destructive.


25 posted on 11/14/2012 3:29:10 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
So you admit one can have smoked pot for years and be smart. Good - that's more than some pot foes will do.

Why do you believe pot is the devil? Do you believe it should be illegal?

I believe pot distorts thought processes. It creates false sentiments, mental confusion

Agreed.

and social disruption.

I might agree if I knew more specifically what you meant by this.

Yes, it is a malicious drug which, like alchohol, requires years to overcome its impact. Legal or illegal its influcence is destructive.

I agree that pot, like alcohol, has long-term destructive impact in some cases - but not all. So I guess I can accept that pot, like alcohol, is the devil to some people.

Do you have a position on the legality of those two drugs?

26 posted on 11/15/2012 7:35:42 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I do not ascribe to criminalization of substances unless they are substantially dangerous. I do not categorize alchohol, tobaccy or firearms as such. Restrictions on their purchase by age is a reasonable approach.
By socially destructive I mean pot distorts relationships.


27 posted on 11/15/2012 9:12:17 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
I do not ascribe to criminalization of substances unless they are substantially dangerous. I do not categorize alchohol, tobaccy or firearms as such. Restrictions on their purchase by age is a reasonable approach.

Do you categorize marijuana as substantially dangerous?

By socially destructive I mean pot distorts relationships.

It can do so; do you agree that alcohol can also do so?

28 posted on 11/15/2012 9:28:41 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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To: patriot08
SARAH PALIN speaks out on Twitter about massive Obama machine voter fraud:

Those tweets are not from Sarah Palin. Her twitter account is @SarahPalinUSA . Just FYI.

29 posted on 11/15/2012 9:37:00 AM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I do not categorize mj a diff than alch. Yes, clearly alch distorts relationships.
Satisfied?


30 posted on 11/15/2012 10:48:42 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Very. Thanks for your replies!
31 posted on 11/15/2012 10:53:32 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("mouth piece from the pit of hell" (Bellflower, 11/10/2012))
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