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To: nascarnation
The demographic trend is not our friend:

But it could be if we spent more time reaching out to these groups. Today there are very few conservative groups that actually reach out to these demographic groups.

11 posted on 11/12/2012 9:11:09 AM PST by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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While all this is true, George W. Bush got 40% of the vote in 2004 among hispanics, so the hispanic vote is not as locked up as the black vote.


14 posted on 11/12/2012 9:17:26 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: HOYA97

We really need a clear operational definition of “Reaching Out.”

If that means agreeing with demands, concessions in the hope to be finally liked, it will not work.

If, on the other hand it means making the case for our beliefs and showing them why it behooves them to follow our succeful model, it might work.

It is not as if the Republicans have been unfriendly, racist or unwelcoming. Quite the contrary. McCain was staunchly in the “legalize the illegals” corner, as was W. Bush. Did it result in ANY additional support in 2008? Did Reagan’s amnesty do it? Did some Republicans supporting the “Dream Act” help? Rubio’s reaching out? Or is this narrative really just a construction to channel Republicans to think that they MUST have Jeb Bush in 2016?

The way the reaching out has been done results so far in those special interest groups staying with Democrats, and Republicans losing their base who see little reason to work for a party which agrees with the opposition party. Republicans lose both the issue and even more votes.


29 posted on 11/12/2012 9:27:08 AM PST by Anima Mundi (You can lead a brain to facts but you can't make it think.)
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To: HOYA97

That is certainly the truth. But I think it’s because maybe a lot of conservatives don’t really have much faith in our message (which, btw, doesn’t just relate to economics).

And for all the hand-wringing about “minority voters,” it should be remembered that very large sections of the white demographic (including working class younger white males) also voted heavily for Obama. About the only safe group was older rural or small city white males.

We’re simply not getting the message out. The electorate, of any color, is so poorly educated that most of them have no idea what states’ rights means, probably at least 50% of them have never heard of the Bill of Rights and have no idea what people mean when they talk about preserving or defending various amendments, they are clueless about economics, and they are increasingly unchurched, so they don’t have the fundamental ethical or moral formation to understand the implications of individual responsibility (and, again, not just on an economic level).

So we really have to review our approach overall. The message that goes to everybody from young white males to middle-aged Hispanic housewives to elderly black church people has got to be the same, and it’s got to start from the basics of our vision and inspire and get people excited about it again.


30 posted on 11/12/2012 9:28:52 AM PST by livius
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To: HOYA97

“But it could be if we spent more time reaching out to these groups. Today there are very few conservative groups that actually reach out to these demographic groups.”

Exactly what is this “reaching out” that you speak of? Even if your extended hand has a wad of money for them, they aren’t particularly interested. The black and hispanics have been so brainwashed for the last 50 years that they have an ingrained gut reaction against the GOP. They don’t think, they feel. Besides money, what could you possibly offer those disaffected groups without giving up the very essence of being a Republican?


70 posted on 11/12/2012 10:59:37 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: HOYA97

You’re full of crap to be an early freeper.


92 posted on 11/12/2012 2:08:35 PM PST by wardaddy (i want Santa to make Quentin Tarantino into a negro for Christmas)
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