Posted on 11/10/2012 7:53:35 PM PST by tobyhill
On a conference call with House Republicans a day after the party’s electoral battering last week, Speaker John A. Boehner dished out some bitter medicine, and for the first time in the 112th Congress, most members took their dose.
Their party lost, badly, Mr. Boehner said, and while Republicans would still control the House and would continue to staunchly oppose tax rate increases as Congress grapples with the impending fiscal battle, they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked so much of the last two years.
Members on the call, subdued and dark, murmured words of support — even a few who had been a thorn in the speaker’s side for much of this Congress.
It was a striking contrast to a similar call last year, when Mr. Boehner tried to persuade members to compromise with Democrats on a deal to extend a temporary cut in payroll taxes, only to have them loudly revolt.
With President Obama re-elected and Democrats cementing control of the Senate, Mr. Boehner will need to capitalize on the chastened faction of the House G.O.P. that wants to cut a deal to avert sudden tax increases and across-the-board spending cuts in January that could send the economy back into recession. After spending two years marooned between the will of his loud and fractious members and the Democratic Senate majority, the speaker is trying to assert control, and many members seem to be offering support.
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the election changed that.
you think that isn’t a message to stand down, tea party?
if you think that isn’t a message to stand down, considering his lack of conservative credentials, his lack of ability to negotiate with the man who wishes to bring America to its knees, you aren’t paying attention.
If Boehner thinks amnesty is such a great move for the GOP, why would he wait? Maybe because the GOP would have a smaller majority in the House next year? After the Dems took over congress, didn't didn't GWB say he could get things done now?
Along this same train of thought, if Boehner doesn't push amnesty in the lame duch session, it musr mean he is confident he will bee Speaker next year. But I am still going to tell my Rep to vote no.
Meanwhile, Lindsay Graham was on TV today explaining how amnesty will be great for the GOP.
Didn't you predict that with a Dem in the white house, the GOP would resist amnesty? Do you still believe that?
I didn't miss your point at all. It is merely childishly specious. Zero is ABETTING "civil unrest," HE WANTS IT, but only after he's disarmed you with the UN Small Arms Treaty, which will effectively abolish the Second Amendment.
Don't think that could happen? Have I got news for you! It would only take 34 Senators, and you know damned well they've got that many. Worse than that, they will start enforcing it upon Hillary's signature alone per "customary international law."
Zero's plan is for his military-armed drug lord "civilian army that is just as powerful and just as well funded as the military" to be exterminating the likes of you. Why the hell would you be dumb enough to abet its execution with passivity? Yeah, just let him do it.
Sheesh.
It might be like that freeper defending him said "Maybe no one will oppose him". Being Os bitch is not a rewarding job.
RE :”If Boehner thinks amnesty is such a great move for the GOP, why would he wait? Maybe because the GOP would have a smaller majority in the House next year? After the Dems took over congress, didn't didn't GWB say he could get things done now? “
That example is not a good one to use to argue a lame Duck push. If anything Bohner would have better luck next year with that with 6 more Dems.
Its a pretty ugly situation now but that is what delusion and fantasy gets a party. “We are winning. Romney will win big. Most Americans are conservatives and will vote Republican. Congress will impeach O ” wishes do not make reality change,.
If Republicans don't reality check and come up with real ideas that they know how to sell voters, and learn how to fight smart, then 2008 to 2012 will be the standard. Big losses with an occasional mid-term win.
To #19 about Operation Chaos.
When Limbaugh started Operation Chaos to stop Hillary Clinton from obtaining the Democrat Party nomination for the presidency, she was a know quantity. She had a traceable record of associating with the Communist Left from her college days onward, including working for a Communist Party USA-membered law firm, Burstein, McTernan, Charles R. Gary (Oakland 7 and New Haven Conn Black Panther cases, among others).
Obama was an unknown and uninvestigated upstart from Chicago and nobody thought that he had a chance, except a few of us who began to look into his background (Trevor Loudon, a pioneer in Obama research; Jerome Corsi, another dedicated investigative researcher; Sean Hannity, i.e., the Rev. Wright tapes, Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in Media/USASurvival, Inc.; Herb Romerstein (former Govt intelligence investigator; and a handful of others over time including this writer.
Our work was largely ignored by the Mainstream Media, esp. the news networks. The only honorable exception was Glenn Beck, who used some of our material as well as what his staff of investigators began to find, based on our early works. Unfortunately Beck was written off as some Right-Wing kook instead of the investigative journalist he was.
Their was an extensive media coverup of Obama and his “running dogs” of Reds, Crooks, Crazies, and combinations thereof (Anita Dunn, Valerie Garrett, Van Jones (STORM), Robert McChesney (Free Press), Dr. Quentin Young and Milt Cohen, both identified CPUSA members, then later in the marxist Democratic Socialists of America (DSA); Alice Palmer, a CPUSA sympathizer; Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn (SDS, Weathermen); the Progressives for Obama; etc.
Show me one major article in any major US paper about these groups and individuals, and I’ll eat the whole edition. Small articles might have appeared in some of the conservative press (Human Events, USA Survival, Inc. reports and press conferences; the Pittsburgh Tribune (?), etc but these are not large circulation MSM).
Would Hillary have been any better as president than Obama? Perhaps. She might have been a little less marxist and far-left ideologically. However, we will never know. But we do know that she serves Obama faithfully, furthering his goals to weaken America and to make us into a second-rate nation, with a Third World mentality.
Now is the time to regroup, rethink our goals, tactics/strategies, who we want for our leaders. It is certainly NOT backboneless Boehener and his crew. It is not Mitch McConnell or McLaim etc. Not even the American Conservative Union seems to get it. Karl Rove - “Hit the Rove, Jack, and Don’t Come Back No More, No More.”
Dick Morris - you need to rethink your methodology.
I want to hear more from Michele Malkin, Limbaugh, Hannity (to some degree), David Limbaugh, Lt. Col. Hunt, Gen. McIlnerny, MARK LEVIN on the CONSTITUTION and how to fight the Left with legal means, and from the new, younger conservatives from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
I’m with the older guys (Vietnam foreign and domestic fights). We know how to identify the enemy, and in many cases how to engage them, but we need younger troops to hump the boonies of America, telling the people what is really going on and what we, as Americans, can do about it.
We don’t need a wider tent, just a tent filled with smart, experienced, and loyal Americans of all races, creeds, and ethnic backgrounds. The only color we can see is the Red, White and Blue. We want the BEST of the BEST, and Veterans’ Day is the start of our new war of INDEPENDENCE from the Left.
As my friend Jim, a retired/disabled NYPD officer writes:
“Lances forward”. I say, “Take no prisoners, never surrender, never retreat. Onward, ever onward, TO VICTORY!
If you come in second, you are still a loser, and loyal, intelligent, hardworking Americans are NOT LOSERS. We are WINNERS and must always strive to be so.
If not, there will be no more America that has been the shining beacon of freedom for some many years.
I don't remember that exactly but it does make sense. IF Obama gets amnesty and the GOP helps him Republicans get nothing, nothing good. Dems get the credit.
That would be pretty stupid.
Actually, Operation Chaos helped Hillary. Small minds equal small memories.
You do not have to be a member of the house to be its speaker. I could be speaker of the house.
I probably pinged you on this but I pointed out yesterday that Romney in one of the Obama debates said he is for a ‘path to citizenship’. Having won the primary being toughest on illegals he decided he needed to say this to win.
Its hard to believe facing a re-election that Mitt wouldn't have tried something on this.
It could be that Bohner wanted a Romney to do this versus Obama to get the credit but the election results scared the daylights out of him. Bohner just pulled this out of the blue so who knows?,
Yes I know. My point was that he would have better luck with more Dems (unless he was removed as speaker)! I am not predicting which way it will happen, but if it failed in the lame duck I don't think they would give up. Waiting until the GOP gets weaker to do what one wants does seem to be an MO for GOP traitors.
They are doing a remake of the 1984 film Red Dawn about commies invading the USA. In the 1984 version, the commie commander, Col. Ernesto Bella says about the traitorous USA mayor, with a sarcastic laugh, "This community is indeed fortunate to have a shepherd like him!"
Makes sense (as an explanation of what Boehner is doing, not that it's good policy).
The method of choosing the winner is dependent upon the laws of the individual states; a run-off system could even be administered in the presidential election, since the certificate of ascertainment for the electors is not due until the second week in December.
I was going to say the same thing, but just now remembered that there is no restriction on who can become Speaker of the House, as it is not required that they be a seated member in the House of Representatives.
"Would be?" That seems to be exactly what is happening, or at least what Boehner is trying to do.
But what Boehner is doing does surprise me. Maybe I need to turn my cynicism up another notch...
Boehner's folly is not shared by the entire House, though. LINK: Rep. Steve King, Iowa Republican and vice chairman of the House subcommittee that handles immigration, took to Twitter to reject that rethink, saying the GOP shouldn’t get into a bidding war with Democrats to try to buy Hispanics‘ allegiance, because they will never bid high enough.
The ONE realistic way of something outside of changing the Republican party is to form a PAC, recruit good candidates who know what they are doing, back those candidates and get them elected.
I'm think long term well beyond what the Dick Vermeil of politics does. We need to get good conservatives elected. Period.
They are terrified.
The R party is in shambles as a collation of conservatives (including a few crackpots who keep getting nominated like Akin and Angle) and the spineless clueless believe nothing RINOs.
And Rush who tells us to just believe we are winning, till after election day, each election.
Not much to be optimistic about.
I know of all the associations you write about - because I too, started doing research when BO first came onto the scene. Then a few others you mentioned, picked up on his associations. However, unfortunately, for us - most people didn’t get educated and still aren’t. Even if you quote his own words at them - they ignore it and continue their cult-like adoration for this communist.
However, thank you for your well written speech. I enjoyed it very much.
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