Posted on 11/10/2012 7:53:35 PM PST by tobyhill
On a conference call with House Republicans a day after the party’s electoral battering last week, Speaker John A. Boehner dished out some bitter medicine, and for the first time in the 112th Congress, most members took their dose.
Their party lost, badly, Mr. Boehner said, and while Republicans would still control the House and would continue to staunchly oppose tax rate increases as Congress grapples with the impending fiscal battle, they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked so much of the last two years.
Members on the call, subdued and dark, murmured words of support — even a few who had been a thorn in the speaker’s side for much of this Congress.
It was a striking contrast to a similar call last year, when Mr. Boehner tried to persuade members to compromise with Democrats on a deal to extend a temporary cut in payroll taxes, only to have them loudly revolt.
With President Obama re-elected and Democrats cementing control of the Senate, Mr. Boehner will need to capitalize on the chastened faction of the House G.O.P. that wants to cut a deal to avert sudden tax increases and across-the-board spending cuts in January that could send the economy back into recession. After spending two years marooned between the will of his loud and fractious members and the Democratic Senate majority, the speaker is trying to assert control, and many members seem to be offering support.
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Yep, save the Obama economy, and his legacy.
I can just see the Republicans arguments in 2016:
1) Republicans saved the economy under President Clinton
2) Dems killed the economy under President Bush
3) Republicans saved the economy under President Obama
So in 2016 vote in another Republican POTUS so...#2 ('killed economy') again????
Better yet last night someone told me not to worry because O might be impeached, yep, by Reid and Bohner.
ok. but my Gosh, didn’t he play poker as a boy?
The GOP - e what have they done for the last 20 years? Nothing. Worse than nothing. Lets' see - No child left behind. The American Dream act. The Patriot Act. NDAA. Don't ask don't tell. Obamacare funding. John Roberts... The GOP has actively worked against Conservatism.
FUGOP.
Good on you. Its not whether you win or lose although winning is nice, its what you cost your opposition in the process.
Either you’re confused or I’m confused. Operation Chaos was to get conservatives to vote for Hillary in the open primaries, in order to help the dems have a very contentious primary and convention - thereby dividing the party and making it difficult for half of the party to vote for whoever eventually won the primary.
You forget there was another problem in VA...all of the candidates except Romney and Ron Paul were denied a place on the primary ballot. Romney was in the bag and the gop-e wanted to make sure that nothing stood in the way.
Pretty much. Spending on so called mandatory entitlements and the interest on the national debt already exceed revenues. If the discretionary budget were dropped to zero, including defense, we stillcouldnt balance the budget.
Fiscal cliff? We went sailing over it long ago.
Pretty much. Spending on so called mandatory entitlements and the interest on the national debt already exceed revenues. If the discretionary budget were dropped to zero, including defense, we stillcouldnt balance the budget.
Fiscal cliff? We went sailing over it long ago.
Generally speaking, when a party or organization of any type fails at a major project, those most responsible for that project’s management are held to account. Have Boehner or the campaign managers been subjected to demands to explain the failure? Has anyone done a good analyis of the election data to determine what failed, what worked, and what is needed going forward. Boehner jumped so quickly after the election with recommendations that, quite frankly, could not have been based on good analysis and seem best designed to increase the Democrat party’s influence and voter base.
Either Boehner is trying to escape removal by throwing around his waning power or he is actively trying to strengthen the Democrat Party. The latter is unlikely but, indirectly, that is what Boehner’s recommendations will lead to.
The Repub party leaders who are responsible for this loss seen to have a vision of a French/Canadian/Australian-style government where the major political parties are just variations on a socialist theme with socialism as the accepted domain for government policy. That is, of course, the very system that the US was designed to avoid. The driving force behind top Repub decision makers’ long-term plan, if there is one, seems to be demographic trends. However, those trends do not favor creation of a government along the lines of France, Sweden, or even Greece. Those nations have different demographic makeups and to the extent those nations are experiencing shifts toward immigrants that absorb, rather than contribute to, national economic health, those nations are facing expensive declines in their abilities to maintain socialist government structures.
Repubs need to do some research and think a little more. Just watch what has happened in the governmental/social laboratory that we know as California. At some point, the government in that state began to oscillate between wacky and wackier. Government employee rolls swelled. A portion of the economy went and will continue to go “off the books”—as in illegal employees. Government funds will, of course, be increasingly fought over by all the various groups in the state. And, Calif is essentially a one-party political system. Voting in Calif is about ballot initiatives, not candidates.
Much depends on the Petraeus testimony - Benghazi, etc. It actually IS possible if the results are actually heard by the electorate.
Public opinion can go viral & Reid and Bohner will have to listen to the furious uproar.
Operation Chaos didn’t backfire. Rush’s purpose was to keep Hillary in the primary race to the end. And it worked. Otherwise Obamuzzie was on track to sew up the dem nom about half way thru the primaries in which case he would have been yapping about his ‘mandate” even earlier. Rush did not bring us the Kenyan——the Christmas Party did.
Along with the useless Republican Party.
Ok - so I’m not a millionaire but if we give Obama what he wants and we get spending cuts and some (not all) loopholes closed up and agree to reform all over tax code then at least we don’t sacrafice 98% getting higher income taxes. I mean Obama has an upper hand with us right now and just taking a blow up the system in reality hurts everyone, including us. Granted I’m considered a RINO by all here but heck I voted Republican and am hopeful the divide in our own party can at least be met. Thoughts?
Short-term, yes....but all we are doing is delaying the inevitable, and making the inevitable even worse in the end.
“Food will become very valuable (make sure to hide it well, because the democrats will try to steal that, too.”
The Mormons have teaching this since I was a kid (50+ years)
It’s all the media. If th media spent all day every day going after Dem failures, people would believe it.
Chnge the media, change the country.
No thank you; although I understand that is the intent of this NY Times story, I don't take their political advice.
We are headed for economic collapse. It is just a matter of how fast and how total. If the future for the white guy is over, the future had better look better real fast or maybe the white guys should go Galt and bring the house down faster and see what emerges from the fires.
Right, Reid in the Senate too.
That reminds me of when Romney dropped talking about the Benghazi attack and a bunch of freepers actually posted HERE that the MSM will get the info to the voters in time for them to vote against O for it, so Romney didn't have to talk about it. The same MSM who they say is in the tank for O. is going to expose him before the election
Like people I see in debt who play the lottery expecting to win it and fix it and think that's a plan.
The GOP has become the mini me of the liberal demwads. Same tactics only not as good at it.
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