Posted on 11/07/2012 8:08:45 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
Vote fraud is no big deal, right? It hardly ever happens. Its so rare that its not even worth discussing. Anyone who claims to take the integrity of our ballots seriously is cynically exploiting phantom fears for the purpose of suppressing the Democrat-loving minority vote.
To keep that silly narrative alive, its important not to read the Sunday edition of the Columbus Dispatch, in which readers were informed that more than one out of every five registered Ohio voters is probably ineligible to vote.
Furthermore, in two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting age population: Northwestern Ohios Wood County shows 109 registered voters for every 100 eligible, while in Lawrence County along the Ohio River its a mere 104 registered per 100 eligible.
31 more counties report over 90 percent voter registration, which is a good 20 percent higher than the national average. The Buckeye State sure is civic-minded! Well, except that 1.6 million of the 7.8 million registered voters in the state havent voted in at least four years. So I guess they were civic minded, once upon a time. Never fear Im sure plenty of those inactive voters will reactivate themselves just in time for Barack Obamas re-election.
You might think these astonishing statistics indicate a crisis-level voter registration problem requiring immediate attention, particularly since this is 2012, not 1912, and modern technology gives us extremely potent tools for accurately managing massive amounts of data. But Attorney General Eric Holder disagrees. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted sent Holder a letter back in February, warning that common sense says that the odds of voter fraud increase the longer these ineligible voters are allowed to populate our rolls I simply cannot accept that. Husted said existing federal regulations limit Ohios ability to remove ineligible names, thereby increasing the chance for voter fraud.
No one from the Justice Department ever responded. Conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch, which called Ohios voter registration train wreck to Husteds attention, is now suing him for failing to take action, beyond issuing a directive to remove ineligible voters that Judicial Watch describes as all bark and no bite, since there is no evidence that anything was actually done.
Judicial Watch has already filed a similar lawsuit against the State of Indiana, and says other states with disturbing levels of ineligible registered voters include Mississippi, Iowa, Missouri, Texas, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Florida, Alabama, California, and Colorado. Floridas struggle to clean up its rolls, in the face of active hostility from Eric Holders Justice Department, has already made headlines.
Nationwide, the Pew Center for the States estimates about 24 million ineligible voter registrations, including more than 1.8 million dead people listed as voters; about 2.75 million with voter registrations in more than one state; and about 12 million voter records with incorrect addresses, meaning either the voters moved or errors in the information make it unlikely any mailings can reach them.
The National Voter Registration Act includes provisions to ensure that accurate and current voter registration rolls are maintained, but somehow that part of the NVRA doesnt seem to count. Its painfully obvious that we dont have accurate and current voter registration not even by the standards of the early Twentieth Century, let alone the early Twenty-First but the only parts of the NVRA we ever hear cited are the passages that can be used as roadblocks against cleaning up the rolls, or keeping fraudsters away from the polls.
Without solid voter identification laws, every one of these phony registered voters presents an opportunity for fraud and of course, Eric Holder is dedicated, above almost every other consideration, to blocking voter ID laws. And vote fraud on this scale is not a mess that can be cleaned up after the election. If a candidate wins a tough swing state like Ohio by, let us say, 5000 votes, and it is later discovered that 6000 false votes were cast in the election, the Presidency is not going to be taken away and given to the defrauded opponent. Its not even like one of those sports scores that picks up an asterisk due to questionable circumstances. It wont matter at all except as another data point to be erased from the public mind, when vote fraud defenders crank up the machinery of fear and ignorance for the 2014 midterms and 2016 presidential campaign. And no one on the Left will express a single moments remorse for the legal voters who were disenfranchised by stolen ballots. They wont have names and faces; no one will be paraded through media interviews to complain about the theft of his or her vote in a historic election.
Vote fraud must be prevented, not investigated after the fact. There is absolutely no logical reason for a computerized society to tolerate thousands of ineligible voters on its rolls. The state of Ohio is not a third-world banana republic. At least, its not supposed to be one. The sacrifice of national pride, and even self-respect, required to meekly accept counties with 110 percent voter registration is astonishing.
What i am saying is not that the obama phone type voters voted for him but the fact that he was able to give out the phones in the first place. i dont blame them for voting for him. its whats called buying votes. the question is how do you deal with the fraud and that comes from the inner workings of the government not the voters themselves.
Truthfully, I have known it and millions of Americans have known it; the Republicans have had plenty of time to do something about it, as they have known it and seen it increasing.
If you offset a premeditated & well-organized plan of massive vote-changing on one side through computers and voting machines with massive ballot destruction, stealing, & multiple votes and other voter fraud on the other side, it balances out and makes it appear that a massive amount of people didn’t vote as well.
Allen West is demanding to inspect both ballots and machines in his district. Need to do more of that.
West is a battle tested warrior. He’s not afraid of flack or tough decisions.
At least he is standing on principle, and his opposition should welcome this, as I’m sure he thinks everything is above board MAJOR SARC
2,524 people voted in my Ward on Tuesday. Last November we had an open mayor’s race along with the city elections. 1,100 people voted. Where did 1,400 people come from? I ran for city council last year and was at the polls all day. I didn’t recognize the people that voted at the same time I always do (8:30 AM). I work our 4th of July ward party, our 3 day Italian feast, have lived here my whole life (3rd generation) and belong to 2 service organizations and two social clubs. These people at the polls on Tuesday were strangers.
This is the first year our son got to vote. He has the same name as my husband, with II added at the end. When he went to vote early, they didn't ask for his drivers license or his voter card...just his name. My husband and I both said, "I sure hope they checked you off and not your dad!"
Needless to say, it turned out alright...but, it could have been that my husband would not have been able to vote. I totally agree with you that an overhaul is needed BIG TIME!
I’m an Ohioan. I needed to show my ID.
2,524 people voted in my Ward on Tuesday. Last November we had an open mayors race along with the city elections. 1,100 people voted. Where did 1,400 people come from? I ran for city council last year and was at the polls all day. I didnt recognize the people that voted at the same time I always do (8:30 AM). I work our 4th of July ward party, our 3 day Italian feast, have lived here my whole life (3rd generation) and belong to 2 service organizations and two social clubs. These people at the polls on Tuesday were strangers.
Shocking. Thanks for sharing.
As long as we can elect someone who proclaims “ You know me, you can trust
me” and not challenge that, we will have the type of experience you have
cited.
The election is now like last years Super Bowl. It’s over, your team won or lost, and it’s now on other less important things like Dancing with the Stars... The
View.... etc.
We have a dumbed down, non questioning population who in the famous words
of Jack Nicholson’s military character:
CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH
Been saying for days now that this election result doe snot add up, how on earth did military votes go een in just VA, how did obama get less votes but union votes go up 5%
I’ve listed some question and they are not made up facts which the blind following sheep will think but this is about fraud and 4 years, Holder and the DOJ involved.
What will the GOP do now as we have just had an election robbed form us and htose who keep saying that we did nto get the voe is had better wake th ehell up and speak out for once and put pressure on the GOP to investigate, WI, FL, OH, VA.
Look at every vote, check their names, teir addresses and see if they were legal to vote
I guarantee that we will find he did not get enough votes to win
see my profile with questions I have found and see how these results don;t add up.
I checked the counties here in FL and republican votes were up, obama got 5000 or just less in Tampa and yet he won that area, NO WAY.
Obama was still going to the SE part of the state in FL where his base was and stil wasn;t getting massive crowds.
The polls showed that Romney had FL by plus 7 in the I-4 corridor an dother polls and Dems said this state wouldbe going for Romney
I’m here and have never seen such crowds to vote in republican areas.
Every vote in OH, WI, VA, FL needs to be looked at, every vote needs to be checked for who voted and addresses and if they are legal to vote and how many voted more than once.
I guarantee that we will find hundreds of thousands of votes which belong to dead or made up people
Look WI does not go republican and people vote republican but the state votes for obama and a Dems senator
Military votes were never split evenly in VA, it;s unheard of and why just that one state\\
Then homosexual marriage in MD, really with all the black churches there and the fight against it
The Chicago machine had 4 years of this and now we know why Holder stayed where he was
“Virginia, which does have voter id,”
Then why do I have to show my ID every time I vote in Norfolk?
see my profile with questions I have found and see how these results don;t add up.
I checked the counties here in FL and republican votes were up, obama got 5000 or just less in Tampa and yet he won that area, NO WAY.
Obama was still going to the SE part of the state in FL where his base was and stil wasn;t getting massive crowds.
The polls showed that Romney had FL by plus 7 in the I-4 corridor an dother polls and Dems said this state wouldbe going for Romney
I’m here and have never seen such crowds to vote in republican areas.
Every vote in OH, WI, VA, FL needs to be looked at, every vote needs to be checked for who voted and addresses and if they are legal to vote and how many voted more than once.
I guarantee that we will find hundreds of thousands of votes which belong to dead or made up people
Look WI does not go republican and people vote republican but the state votes for obama and a Dems senator
Military votes were never split evenly in VA, it;s unheard of and why just that one state\\
Then homosexual marriage in MD, really with all the black churches there and the fight against it
The Chicago machine had 4 years of this and now we know why Holder stayed where he was
been saying for two days now that these results just do not add up.
I;ve asked questions on my profile page and no one can answer them.
Every vote I don;t care how long it takes or how much should be investigated in VA, FL, OH, WI because that is where most of this happened.
Who are we going to beleive , our own eyes and seeing lines and crowds and talking to others , famly , neighbors or the media who are out there using republican talking heads about how we shoud work our disagreements out crap.
No investigate these 4 states and I guarantee that there is massive fraud like we have never seen but then again they had 4 years prepping for this election.
I and others in this state FL know most of our poll watchers, tell me did others outside of FL in those swing states have many new faces in their poll stations like many here did?
It's a word that begins with "FR" and rhymes with ROD.
I do wish someone would look into it because there is the paper trail. At least in Ohio. I’d gladly volunteer my time to help if there was an organization coordinating the effort. That said, I still believe turnout was down. My precinct usually has over an hour wait to vote in presidential elections. This year there wasn’t even a line. Can’t believe my whole precinct voted early but that doesn’t mean I’m not still concerned about fraud cancelling out votes for those who did.
Id be more than happy to give my time and so would my wife.
Have you now seen Allen West and hsi recount has him in the lead?
funny whenyou have balls you can stop this fraud
Because the election was fraudulent.
Completely.
Josef Stalin's ideological progeny have learned their lessons well ... we live in a post-constitutional communist kakistocracy.
the Chicago machine had 4 years , Holder and a racisr DOJ to prep for this election and still we have idiots who will nto speak up abotu this even as the country and this election depends on it because they do not want to piss off the left, because they;re cowards or because they just want to move on or because they;re trolls
never scanned mine but i did have to sign.
Now remember Miami and Browrd giving out ballots to people in line outside and never checking ID’s
Broward yet again waited till other areas reported in.
Look we can ask and find out why these results do not add up or we can just say oh well lets move ona nd lets be more inclusive as we do every frigging election
Listening to descriptions of how Democrats got out their ground game with superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.
A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..youll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.
FWIW...if they’re not finding, prosecuting and revoting where appropriate..I ain’t payin’ no more Federal taxes. Period.
They can come an’ get it.
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