Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham debate how Romney lost the election

Daily Caller ^ | November 6, 2012 | Jeff Poor

[Rufus2007]

The shock of last night’s electoral outcome in the presidential race is setting in for some conservatives. But just how it was lost seems to be up for the debate.

On Laura Ingraham’s Wednesday radio show, conservative commentator Ann Coulter and Ingraham debated who is to blame. Coulter, author of “Mugged: Racial Demagoguery from the Seventies to Obama,” was less willing to fault the candidate Mitt Romney, while Ingraham put the loss mostly on the shoulders of those running the Romney campaign.

COULTER: I think Romney ran just on his own force of will, a magnificent campaign. I think he was the perfect candidate. INGRAHAM: Are you kidding me? You think he ran a magnificent campaign?

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[shhrubbery!]

Agree with most of what you said. But Romney was probably right not to attack Zero on Benghazi -- much as I hate to say it.

For the sake of the families of the 4 murdered Americans, and for my own gratification, I wanted to see Romney hit Zero hard.

However it was clear Obama had a media set-up ready to go on that in both the 2nd and 3rd debates.

In the 3rd debate, if Romney had taken the bait (did you notice that Obama tried to draw him into a discussion of Benghazi -- twice?), Obama would've hit him with some pre-cooked, poll-tested zinger.

This would then have been reported as "another Romney gaffe" in the next day's headlines.

[elkfersupper]

Anyone else having second thoughts on the 19th Amendment?

Count me among those. I first voiced this opinion during Clinton's first term.

We should definitely go back to male property owners having the right to vote and nobody else.

Of course, no individual has the "right" to vote in a presidential election.

[Just mythoughts]

Ann Coulter hooked out all her credibility. Let her go with the wind.

[CatherineofAragon]

"We should definitely go back to male property owners having the right to vote and nobody else."

When it comes to vapid, moronic leftwing women (mostly those who are single), I definitely see your point. They're not women; they're walking vaginas. But there are lots of conservative women like me who don't vote based on feelings or hormones. I spent an hour and a half standing in line yesterday to vote for Mitt Romney, so while you're getting together your Constitutional convention to rescind the 19th Amendment, I suggest you draft an out for intelligent women, and refrain from lumping us all together.

[smokingfrog]

His campaign was a masterpiece of marketing and troops on the ground.

That, and the MSM that will never criticize him for anything.

[eddie willers]

I called him 4 years ago THE FACEBOOK PRESIDENT

One point I haven't seen anyone make, but I think had an impact is the loss of Andrew Breitbart.

No other conservative knew how to use the "New Media" and actually reach the disillusioned liberal (since he, like me, had once been one) and explain WHY conservatism is more moral and just than the liberal approach.

[etcb]

Romney only had to match McCain's numbers to win the election, but fell 3 million votes shorts. These three million voters did not suddenly become "takers" and vote for Obama, rather they stayed home out of principle because Romney brought nothing to the table.

You are correct. Oboma did not pick up any previous republican votes. All this talk about takers and payers is just a smokescreen. For whatever reason, Republican voters just did not turn out. There is such antipathy between the Republican Party factions that no one can achieve the unity necessary to defeat a united Democrat candidate. In many ways it reminds me of the 1965 Watts riots in Los Angeles when the residents burned down their own neighborhoods because they were angry at the man.

[who knows what evil?]

Second thoughts? Never thought it was a good idea in the first place. That, and the establishment of the Federal Reserve.

[Mr. Silverback]

Ingraham is way off. If Romney had been a poor choice or run a poor campaign, we would have done much, much better down ballot.

I didn’t want Romney, but he didn’t lose this thing. It may be that we are permanently outnumbered.

[elkfersupper]

while you're getting together your Constitutional convention to rescind the 19th Amendment, I suggest you draft an out for intelligent women, and refrain from lumping us all together.

I favor a minimal intelligence test for all voters.

We had a situation in my home county where there were 6 candidates for U.S. President.

The result was a bunch of "spoiled" ballots where there were so many candidates, voters thought they could do multiple choice and vote for more than one.

Nice.

[JLS]

But this election was in part lost by voters who blame the economy on G. W. Bush. That is a product of a 12 year refusal of GOP opinion makers and the GOP rank and file to defend the G.W. Bush presidency.

Some particularly here will blame that one Bush, but in fact a modern president can not go out and say casualties were light in a battle. So other must say that for them. Other must point out the housing market problem was caused by Dims and the Bush administration several times tried to nip the problems in the bud and were called racists for their trouble.

The GOP opinion makers were too busy sitting on a couch with Pelosi and such actions to bother to defend a GOP president.

[re_nortex]

Anyone else having second thoughts on the 19th Amendment?

Absolutely! Like the other amendments of the era, it was a result of the so-called "progressives", some of whom happened to have an "R" next to their names. I think it's noteworthy that Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia, Louisiana and Mississippi all rejected the 19th Amendment. These are also the states that led the Conservative Renaissance in 1964 by supporting Barry Goldwater.

I'll also add that Tom Tancredo's idea (advanced at the Tea Party Convention in 2010) of a civics test for voting makes good sense. One must be properly certified to drive or even be a barber, yet the precious privilege of voting for America's future is handed out like candy to the undeserving leeches. In an ideal world, I'd also make fluency in English a requirement for voting. The bilingual ballots (actually bilingual anything) only serve to Balkanize our country.

[tennmountainman]

That is true as well. I know there are many well off RATS
who are makers not takers, who voted for Zero. However, those
are a very small percent of the RAT vote. Add, the illegals
with millions more coming in and we are out numbered.

[polkajello]

So much for the Magic Underoos (aka Temple Garments). Joe Smith got shot and Mitt got trounced.

[blueunicorn6]

Ann Coulter needs to stand up and say, “I was stupid.” the first step in fixing a problem is to admit you have it.

[Humbug]

I agree with Coulter here. Mitt ran a strong campaign. Did very well in the debates. Was great on the stump. We can debate strategy and whatnot, but one thing is not debatable — Romney/Ryan deserved to win far more than did Obama/Biden. They would have been far better for the country. Instead of aiming our anger at Romney, i think it would be much better directed at the liberal activists who masquerade as ‘the media’.

[Linda Frances]

90% of republicans had to hold their nose to vote for romney. Why would anyone not republican vote for romney? All the people I know who did not vote at all, thought obama and romney were equally corrupt. They are giving up on politics completely.

The gop-e, COULTER, Ingraham, hannity.....Rush who pushed romney on us, helping him cheat and beat up the other primary candidates, is to blame along with romney. Many conservatives-I mean real conservatives, not romney rino/conservatives, did not vote for romney. The gop-e & romney screwed conservatives and then said if we did not vote for THEIR candidate would be voting for Obama. In ohio, romney did not even get the number of votes that mccain got. That state is filled with social conservative, but thanks to cheating; throwing our fair vote out the window, they stayed home. Remember hearing “only romney can win” ? What a lie that was. I think one of the other primary candidates could have won, but I knew romney could not win. I dropped out of the political sphere after the primary because I knew it was over and I was not going to follow someone who would lose. I’m now an independent and am going to volunteer for a third party. I will have nothing to do with the rnc again.

[blueunicorn6]

Obama was an awful candidate. Not that great of a speaker. Abysmal record. Not particularly likeable. Yeah, he’s half black, so he’ll pull 98% of the black vote, but so has every white Democrat. I really think we have to eliminate the “He was a great candidate” theory. He might have been OK, but he wasn’t great.

[re_nortex]

We should definitely go back to male property owners having the right to vote and nobody else.

Freeper MrB expressed it quite correctly and very succinctly in post #11 from a May 2012 thread titled, Should we have some criteria to be a voter?:

Criteria: SKIN IN THE GAME

You must be a property owner and pay taxes, or serve in the military.

[JediJones]

My guess is Romney shied away from talking about the housing problem because he didn’t want to seem like a rich guy who wanted to deny mortgages to poor people. He had to say something though. Obama pinned him down on supposedly wanting to “continue the Bush policies that got us into this mess.” I heard that line quoted from Obama’s stump speeches by the media more than anything else. Romney offered no response to that attack from Obama whatsoever. Dennis Prager criticized Romney for this lack of response today as well.