Posted on 11/07/2012 1:14:10 AM PST by Arthurio
Why is that?
It was reported yesterday that exit pollsters were told not to interview "anyone old and white".
It was reported from several sources in several states that touch screen electronic voting machines were reading Romney votes as Obama. There were no reports of anyone pressing Obama and having it pop up Romney.
Google's ability to control search engine results has made the memory hole obsolete.
For now it just seems there are more Dem voters than us plain and simple.
There aren't more, but, the major problem is there are now "enough". Last election cycle we said if the victory is too great they can't steal the election. Now the margin is AT BEST 47%, steal 3% and we're done.
I understand.
No honest person could.
I haven't turned on the TV or radio yet, tell me what the Obama Media Group is calling it this morning, if you please?
“...“Sandy is helping Obama.” She was right. Women saw that sh*t and lapped it up....”
And yet their lights are STILL out...and neither Obama nor Christie can make them turn back on.
I do. Reagan showed the GOP how to win landslides 30 years ago. Instead of adopting his policies, they've been chasing Reagainites out of power ever since.
They'd rather be Democrat-lite, rather than doing good for our country.
Me too.
Unfortunately to the likes of Obama, Reid and the OMG, it spells overwhelming mandate of the people.
They will act and report accordingly.
Wonder how many people will let off steam by marching down to their town offices to change their voter registration? Might as well send a message; not that they will give a damn. Life will NOT change for the MSM; nor for Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Beck, and the rest...the little people? We’re screwed.
I took the current vote totals for each state from FOX's page and divided by the % reporting to estimate what the total votes would be when 100% reported, and totalled that. Overall we compute at just 90% reporting. I got 67M Obama, and 63M Romney, 52% v. 48%, compared to 69M and 60M, 53% v. 46% in 2008 for Obama v. McCain. As FOX only provided 2 two digits for % reporting I can only claim two digits precision, but that 52 % v. 48% actually round from 51.54% and 48.46%, a D+3 electorate instead of 2008's D+7. This presumes those votes not in go the same as those already reported and discounts whatever third party votes were cast as FOX didn't provide them. R&R DID do better than McCain-Palin and Obama did do worse this time, just not enough so. In 2004 Bush beat Kerry 62M to 59M so Romney got out even more votes than that.
There is plenty of blame to be cast, but let us cast it accurately.
That's like the candidate we ran against Bobby Rush this election cycle, Don Peloquin. He's a conservative man who has been elected mayor of Blue Island, IL (which is roughly 1/3rd white, 1/3rd black, 1/3rd hispanic) for the last 20 years. Of course, he didn't run with an "R" next to his name in the mayoral races, instead he ran on whatever the local party was (in suburban Cook, all the towns have local parties like "Unity Party", "Taxpayers Party", etc.)
I haven't seen the numbers yet, but I know we got slaughtered in suburban Crook again, and it's possible that Bobby Rush (puke!) could have carried my township, something he wasn't able to do in 2010, 2006, 2004, 2002, or 2000. I just know in my own pct., blacks are around 20-30% of the residents, but they made up around 50% of the voters who showed up at the polls. I think turnout was down on both sides (lots of white liberals "stayed home" too), but blacks still eagerly voted for Obama.
>> See Jersey City which is heavilly democrat elected him several times but he was too conservative for Jersey Republicans! <<
Same situation when my then-state Senator (Patrick J. O'Malley) ran for Governor in 2002 and lost the GOP primary. He represented a Crook County senate district that was surrounded by Chicago on three sides (it even contained a couple of blocks of the 19th ward of Chicago BEFORE the 2002 redistricting), it was mostly blue-collar, and had a large number of black and hispanic minorities. But he was "too conservative" for statewide voters. Right. And yet somehow an wealthy elitist WASP north shore politician (Mark Kirk) is a better fit for suburban voters, even though 90% of the suburbs are NOTHING like his constituents. And of course, running as a conservative "social issues" is given as excuse why we lose, nevermind the fact even the Dem candidates in my area run as social conservatives (the RAT who won my state senate contest this year, Bill Cunningham, CLAIMS to be a pro-life Catholic).
The official title is "Information Czar".
I'm not kidding.
I don't think his religion had anything to do with it. There are some idiots on FR who will "only elect Christians" (wonder if they were upset when Norm Coleman beat Walter Mondale, or Eric Cantor beat his commie RAT opponent this year), but nationally I think they were only an extreme fringe. One of the reasons why is that Romney won huge in the bible belt, even in states that were re-electing their local RAT officials, like in West Virgina. If "evangelicals had stayed home", Romney would have still won the deep south, but not by 20 point margins.
>> However, there was a group that probably did stay home and they were the Paulites. I know a bunch of them and many of them proudly pronouced that they didn’t cast their votes, so I suspect that a larger proportion of them, relative to their size, did stay home. <<
Ditto. They were gloating about it on facebook last night ("Hey GOP, THIS is what happens when you insult the great DR PAUL") and posting the photo of the old coot on every thread when he had nothing to do with the election and wasn't even running or making statements about it. I know one Paulbot who kept interrupting a post I made about my U.S. Senate race endorsements with the words "GO RON PAUL". When I asked her what the heck "Ron Paul" had to do with the Senate races, she just kept screaming his name over and over again. I really don't harbor any ill will towards Paul (Who stayed quiet during the general election election), but his obnoxious supporters get on my nerves so much I want to punch them. I can't stand political cults. You'd think they'd shut up after the primary is over and their god is no longer running, but they won't give up trying to convert everyone else to their dogma. Even mainstream conservatives like the Andrejewski worshipers in Illinois are stuck in that mentality and can't shut up about how everything revolves around Adam and what a heroic LEADER he is.
>> No, I don’t think Republicans stayed home as about 55% of eligible voters did cast their votes. Most elections rarely exceed 40% of the eligible voters casting their votes. Lack of anyone actually liking Romney was a problem. Hey I didn’t want him to be nominated. Too bad no one worth a damn ran. If you don’t think Newt or Perry would have been killed even worse tonight I don’t know what to say. And those liars are barley more conservative than Romney. <<
From what I saw, there was no enthusiasm from any camp except black Obama supporters (who not only showed up in big numbers but kept disrupting both polling places I worked at by wearing tons of Obama campaign materials into the polling place and loudly telling everyone to vote for him). The usual union thugs and suburban RAT poll watchers didn't even show up this time to hand people campaign literature near the polling place and place their signs too close to the doors like in 2010 and 2008. We had freezing rain in Chicago and turnout trickled to crawl by the late afternoon. It was the quietest Presidential election I've seen in 12 years (and I didn't watch polling places closely in '96 so I can't compare it to that one). Felt more like a midterm primary election than a november Presidential election. I think most conservatives who normally vote in elections voted for Romney, but the fact nobody liked Romney was a problem. Even the GOP establishment types who backed him the primary didn't particularly like him, they just promoted him because they said he was the only one who could "win"
Sad crop of Presidential candidates this year. If we had run Newt or Perry, I think Obama might have even done better than 2008, especially in RAT states like New York and California, and we'd have even bigger loses for House and Senate. Puke. A sad day for America.
I didn't see Romney/Ryan fighting at all. They ran a safe “Don't worry about the polls because we are winning automatically “ campaign while Rush assured his listeners that the polls were not real.
I knew the Koolaid was pouring when I read too many freepers agreeing with Romney to go mum on Benghazi claiming the MSM was going to break the story before the election(I was attacked for pointing out the problem with doing this) . Then the hurricane moved in and that was the end.
Yesterday there were an endless number of ‘we are winning big’ vanities here. Where did they get us? Where does believing you are winning when you are losing get anyone?
” I didn’t see Romney/Ryan fighting at all. They ran a safe “Don’t worry about the polls because we are winning automatically “ campaign “
Like you said, Romney had to MAKE a case for replacing the incumbent, and he didn’t attack when Obama took the gloves off. Hard to win this way. I believe there was a goodly amount of voter fraud, and illegal immigrant voting, but that only makes a more compelling argument for FIGHTING. No fight at all, just a rich, refined “stay above the fray” guy, fighting a Marxist thug. Not enough, as we saw last night.
FNC been saying that for a while but the GOP/Romney/Ryan strategy was no strategy. Romney won the primary being the toughest on immigration and after that dropped it completely and had no strategy to keep Hispanic voters from coming out to vote against him.
O targeted women, hispanics, blacks, gays, ..... every Demo group separately to get out the vote. Both Gays AND illegals won big in Maryland on the ballot and O took stands on both largely unopposed. But yesterday I kept reading here that Maryland Republicans are turning out to vote in historic numbers.
R/R/R strategy was to say ‘Relax. We are winning. Don't worry Play it safe ’ You see that post yesterday saying that Romney didn't have a speech prepared for a loss? You really think they didn't know this was coming? Even Rove sounded worried on Monday as I pointed out here.
Rush is saying we are outnumbered today. Didn't he spend months saying to not believe the polls showing R/R behind?
No plan is not a plan.
Because many “on our side” are just as delusional and ridiculous as the obamabots.
unless a 10/10 candidate emerges they melt down and stay home.
This is why we have obama and quite frankly deserve him.
I agree.
Reagan was a generation ago. Today's fresh retirees were in their prime working years. New voters remember the hay-day of the Clinton "boom" which was the just tech bubble. Republicans have harmed themselves by doing the right thing: impeaching Clinton, fighting amnesty...
Uh... Romney was WINNING in the polls. Is your memory that short?
I’m as guilty or more guilty of this than anyone here. And in some ways I actually agree with you.
In my 61 years of life, I have never won or been a part of a team who won anything going in with the attitude I/we couldn’t win.
If we knew nothing else but Obama’s actions as president, that was enough to think we couldn’t lose.
Now if that is a vice, I’m going to be guilty 10 times out of 10.
” In my 61 years of life”
Why, y’ole fart, I’m only 58 : )
” I have never won or been a part of a team who won anything going in with the attitude I/we couldn’t win.”
I agree. I really thought that Romney would SQUEAK by. He didn’t.
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