Posted on 11/06/2012 9:40:19 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
Right or wrong, the GOP is going to pinpoint a "latino problem", which will move Rubio to the front of the line.
You can't make exact comparisons, but this election is similar to 2004....Bush won...shocking the left, and the response was to go with the young guy who was different. There WILL be Obama fatigue by 2016, and the next person can't blame Bush any longer.
The GOP was never going to get the black vote, but they CAN get the latino vote. They are far less monolithic, and are more Christian than your typical white lefty. I also present there are a lot of conservative, hard working latinos who will more readily break from the Democratic fold than blacks....if the case is made to them.
Is Rubio automatically the GOP's Obama? Of course not. He might be, but whether he is or not, this, IMO, is likely to be what occurs.
The Demographic bomb is here. Romney just generated a close election in a DEMOCRAT +6 election....I think we'll look back on this and be amazed Romney got it this close.
The takeaway by the GOP, IMO, rightly or wrongly, will be a conservative, religious latino would flip the entire demographic bomb on its head.
ESPECIALLY if in 2016 the Dems go back to a white guy or woman. Of course, they might go Latino themselves...we'll have to see.
This is going to dramatically change the immigration debate, and I think the GOP is now going to decide to go all in, embrace "reform" and start trying to bring Christian Latinos into the GOP.
Rove made the Christian White Voter the centerpiece for Bush.
Going forward the GOP will try to flip the demographic wave on its head, and do a judo move.
Again...I am not saying this is right or wrong, or what SHOULD happen... it is just a forecast of what I think WILL happen.
One thing is sure, there is a decent chance to attract religious Latinos as opposed to religious blacks.
Now...will the GOP move left to do it?
The demographic wave is here, instead of moving left I hope the GOP makes the conservative case to that wave.
Get ready. Immigration reform will be Obamas NEXT BIG THING...and the GOP might just get onboard the train. For good or bad, for better or worse.
I fear a shift left. I think you can bring in Latinos AND go conservative...but I'm not sure they'll do it that way.
I just hope Rubio is the real deal...because I think he is the "next guy".
Needed him this time.
Latino and women vote. Theres the problem and the future.
I believe you are incredibly optimistic to think there will be elections in 2016.
and he will lose.
Don’t waste your time thinking about the next guy. Get some chips, dip and cheap Rose and enjoy watching the collapse. I almost forgot. Get a cigar and light it with a trillion dollar bill.
Both candidates in 2016 will be Latino.
They’re shifting left because that’s where the new center is.
We blew the center-right moment. Nixon first got it, and he screwed up with Watergate. Then Reagan gave us a second shot, and sure he might have made some short term gains, but look where we are now.
The left has demographics, academia, and the media. Conservatives are older, and dying off as time progresses.
Young Millennials like me aren’t religious, or social conservatives either. Being so will probably put me to the far-right as time goes by.
The Reagan coalition is broken, and short of a miracle, the new coalition that is going to emerge will NOT favor us.
2016, there ain’t gonna be no stinking 2016! The constitution is nothing but a sheet if paper as of toady! It has no value because we have POTUS who has just been re-elected by a majority of people that think its ok to defy laws as long as the Govenment gives them stuff!
RINOs such as Rubio ENSURE a loss.
If the house lays down for Obama, I will never vote for another republican the rest of my life.
I got burned by RINO Mc’Cain, and now by RINO Romney. I finally figured it out. They ARE the true republicans. The RINO’s are the conservatives in the party.
I am RINO no more. I am a true none of the above. And voting is an utter waste of time. It is way too rigged and nobody, NOBODY with the power, has the cajoles to do anything about it.
Time to put my faith where it belongs, in the blood of Christ. Countries have always come and gone.
People don’t seem to realize that Rove, Romney, etc, WANT to go left, it is their goal, not something that they are forced to settle on.
All GOP politics is Rockefeller versus Reagan.
You assume that there’s going to be another election.
Yup...we have likely seen our last Republican president.
Rubio is a RINO just like Romney.
My God, won’t we ever learn, even while exiting the woodshed?!
Too little, too late.
If you think Communists will support candidate that is a non-Communist just because he is a Latino, you have another think coming
Amen! That’s it! I am tired
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
I can’t think of any GOP elected person who has a better delivery of speech than Rubio. Unfortunately GOP has a seniority system. They only nominate whose turn it is next...Bob Dole, Juan McCain, Mitt Romney. Next nominee will be Paul Ryan, a very good conservative but NOT as good a speaker and politician as Marco Rubio.
It is not enough to nominate conservative candidates if they are lousy politicians. Mourdock, Akin, Angle, O’Donell, Hoffman etc. come to mind. Once they lose election, they have zero power to change anything.
Hyperinflation is coming. All bets are off about the union staying together when that begins.
Yep, and the GOP better have a better story for blacks than “stay on your plantation.”
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