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Zogby: Sandy Helping Obama With Independents
Newsmax ^ | 11/2/12 | John Bachman and Patrick Hobin

Posted on 11/03/2012 5:56:48 AM PDT by lasereye

Despite President Barack Obama turning the tide with a five-point swing among Independents with his response to Hurricane Sandy, the race is still too close to call, pollster John Zogby tells Newsmax TV.

The latest NewsmaxZogby polling numbers show Obama, who was down three points just a few days ago, has pulled ahead by a couple of points.

Zogby said the president is “turning the tide with Independents.”

“He was down by as many as nine and 10 points nationally among independents and now what we see is that that’s a razor thin,” he said.

“The governor leads by only three points among independents and it’s trending Obama. I wouldn’t call this big momentum but . . . he was down three points three days ago and now he’s up two. That is a five-point swing. At the same time, we do see him improving his numbers with young voters and hitting the 60 percent mark. And, of course, that’s very significant. It doesn’t match what he did last time but it’s enough to put him in contention. And right now I wouldn’t tell you to see your bookie with a thousand-dollar bet on Obama winning but it’s certainly looking better, obviously, more competitive.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingvote; independents; obama; poll; sandy; zogby; zogby4alqaeda; zogby4obama; zogbysauce; zogbysauce4obama
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To: all the best

“Are you still alive? Apparently. All because of Obama.”

You’re correct. Although I’m down in The South I should have realized obama even saved me.


41 posted on 11/03/2012 6:27:11 AM PDT by Jake8898
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To: pburgh01

You go fold laundry and take care of kids, asshole. I’ve been here longer than you and will express my concern in every thread if I want. People know I’m 100% behind Romney. I’ve been here long enough to remember being told every poll is a lie for this or that race which was showing us losing, and been told “insiders” have the real numbers and they’re better than the polls we see, and been told how the ground game is better than ever for us, only to lose on election night and be very disappointed.

I’m trying to be realistic a little. If all polls show a trend toward Obama then just MAYBE the Sandy disaster did help zerO with indies. Are you that ignorant to not even think it could be true?
Does it mean he’ll win? NO! Is it probably a temp bump? YES! But I’m not gonna pretend he didn’t get a little help from Sandy this past week.


42 posted on 11/03/2012 6:30:29 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: chessplayer

There is NO poll out now or in the past which lists as among the most important issues the governments response to storm damage etc.

What each and every poll DOES show is the most important issues to them are JOB and the economy followed by our debt problems. And while the media spin on this may move his approval numbers a point or 2 for a few days they will not change the vote of anyone whose mind was made up already and only a small % of those few who are as yet undecided.


43 posted on 11/03/2012 6:31:17 AM PDT by Lacey2
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To: gswilder

No matter what people here wish, Obama did get a bounce out of the storm - it also enabled him to move off the wholly negative “Save Big Bird” campaign and look presidential, notwithstanding that his “walkabout” accomplished nothing substantive. I agree that Christie went way overboard, totally unnecessary and damaging, for whatever purpose (it is unlikely that someone of this size has a career in national politics in any event). But I also expect the positive impact of it for Obama to largely dissipate by Tuesday, particularly as the photos of long gas lines, cold weather and angry residents resonate. So, instead of the 52-47 Romney vote I thought likely a few days ago, it would appear to be more likely to be 51-48 or even 50-49. If the last result is the case, I have a real concern that Romney could lose the EV but win the popular vote, given the shakiness of Ohio.


44 posted on 11/03/2012 6:32:06 AM PDT by laconic
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To: lasereye

This poll was released to move the RCP average for Obamugabe.


45 posted on 11/03/2012 6:32:25 AM PDT by Lacey2
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To: gswilder

There does seem to be some tightening of the Indy vote the last week. This is across several polls, including RAS. Whether it is the hurricane or just the normal tightening of the race, I don’t know.

I still believe Romney will with 53-47, due to massive GOTV. But I don’t think we can discount the Indy vote dynamics. The problem with the hurricane from an election perspective, is will it impact the vote. Or is it just impacting the polling?
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Thank you for being at least reasonable in responding to my worries about this so-called collapse among indies with Romney.


46 posted on 11/03/2012 6:33:19 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

John who?


47 posted on 11/03/2012 6:36:19 AM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: snarkytart
Oh the irony of your response, still more negativity. Thanks you proved my point, better than I ever could of. I just love when we have self appointed Oracles of Reality that need to set us straight, they need to tell us to see the world the way it really is. I am not going to thoroughly destroy you on your sophistic comment on Sandy and the polls, how its you babe who have drunken the kool-aid. You know you are right, we will lose Tuesday, you can be right, which some women just make it their mission in life to be.
48 posted on 11/03/2012 6:38:31 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: lasereye

If a few days of photo ops is enough to make people forget 4years of complete incompetency maybe the country doesn’t want to be saved.


49 posted on 11/03/2012 6:38:37 AM PDT by CPONuke
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To: laconic

I agree with everything you posted. There was def a bump, but it was very temporary and most people are more concerned with jobs and the debt etc.


50 posted on 11/03/2012 6:40:32 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

I have never been a big fan of Ras robo call polling .
I have always warned everyone his state polling record is average but not great .he blew Colorado in 2010 and a few other state polls in 2010 .

That fact his internals show + 1 R voting but his results have been + 4 dem makes me wonder what he is doing?
He seems to be intentionally twisting his poll to reduce the Romney
Percentage to keep the media from
Trashing him !

His math does not add up and he was asked about it and refused to
Respond.


51 posted on 11/03/2012 6:43:25 AM PDT by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: pburgh01

Oh gee how dare I negatively respond to your post where you called me names and made sexist comments about me going to fold laundry instead of worrying my little female brain with big boy politics.


52 posted on 11/03/2012 6:45:09 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: lasereye

Anyone that would change their vote for President of the United States at the last moment due to a Category One hurricane has got sh*t for brains, pure and simple. If you actually know people this stupid, don’t let them into your home under ANY circumstance.


53 posted on 11/03/2012 6:45:26 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ncalburt

That is interesting. Wonder why he doesn’t respond about that conflicting stat?


54 posted on 11/03/2012 6:48:42 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: who knows what evil?

lol true so true


55 posted on 11/03/2012 6:49:42 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: lasereye

The guy shows up for a 90-minute photo op, and that somehow translates into an upswing in independents’ support? Zogby and company must think we’re all a bunch of stupid idiots! I can’t take anything coming from these pollsters anymore with a grain of substance or reliability to them.


56 posted on 11/03/2012 6:51:20 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: snarkytart

I never said you had a small brain, maybe a malfunctioning one but never small. I would have told any male poster to go rake leaves, watch football or go have a beer with the guys. Relax darling.


57 posted on 11/03/2012 6:56:14 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: DarthVader

Anyone that would vote for a person to lead this nation based on a big hug from this traitor-in-chief has few brains. Remember, Judus betrayed Jesus with a kiss. Beware of false profits.


58 posted on 11/03/2012 6:56:59 AM PDT by RightLady (Take out the trash Nov 6th)
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To: snarkytart

I have no idea .
People have been posting about it here for awhile .
That is why my trust in polling is very low .

There are no legal or other ramifications for bad polling product which in many cases are just flat out lies !
Case in point ,the Orlando Slatinal had QU cook up a poll and blasted it as the headline on Election Day stating Scott would lose by 5 points to the Dem.
They did that intentionally to suppress the Scott bot on Election Day !
Did anyone sue that left wing rag or QU for that outrageous lie ?
No .

We are seeing the same games played in 2012 by the same
Players .


59 posted on 11/03/2012 6:59:40 AM PDT by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: snarkytart

Just saw Campaign Carl on FOX. He said he saw some of Romney’s internal pols. They see too close to call in several states and it’s down to GOTV and some places could have to wait for mail in ballot counts. And they are getting lawyers prepared.


60 posted on 11/03/2012 6:59:51 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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