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1 posted on 11/01/2012 10:14:00 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

How is denying a rumor “shooting it down?”


2 posted on 11/01/2012 10:17:02 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; onyx; Travis McGee; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; RummyChick

But by NOT issueing a CBA.... nothing outside of Libya moves....right?


3 posted on 11/01/2012 10:19:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Very carefully written letters will abound so there is no "lying".

I call it Clinton/Pinnochio syndrome.

5 posted on 11/01/2012 10:22:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

OBAMA - “Do whatever you can to save the consulate, under existing standing orders.” (Which happens to NOT INCLUDE the authority to cross international borders with military personnel or equipment.) [hypothetical quote to illustrate weasel opportunity.]

We need a full deposition to get past all the weasel words/parsing.


6 posted on 11/01/2012 10:24:12 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think the CIA contractor said stand down. This way the WH, DOD or CIA made the decision. Of course there was a discussion between the contractor and CIA or WH or DOD where it was made known what was wanted without saying stand down and the contractor followed through. Perhaps a reporter can ask about them.


7 posted on 11/01/2012 10:29:15 AM PDT by glm
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack,”

This is probably true. It is also true that they did not provide the necessary PERMISSION to conduct a cross-border operation.

Hence, they are trying to buy time with an ambiguity as cover to get past election day.

8 posted on 11/01/2012 10:29:15 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Over the last few days, I’ve developed my own pet theory about what transpired in Benghazi.

I don’t think the Islamist militias that attacked the cosulate on 9/11 did so to kill Stevens and the other personnel there. I think they were looking for something.

I think that rumors had filtered out that Stevens was assisting with the transport of shoulder-fired SAMs and other goodies on to Turkish vessels that then transported the weapons to Syria. I think it was understood that the US had a stockpile of those weapons secured in the days after Qadaffi fell, and were disposing of them to “friends”. I think that was the primary business of the so-called “consulate” and especially the CIA safehouse compound a mile away. I think those militias wanted those weapons for themselves and went after them.

This would also explain the reluctance of Panetta, Hillary and 0’s Nat. Security team to intervene. I think they had a pretty good idea what the militias were after, and I think they were afraid that they had succeeded. It’s one thing to deny help to an ambassador and some CIA guys while Muslim fanatics shoot up the place. It’s another to have US combat aircraft shot down by SAMs during a fire fight. During an election. On the 9/11 annaversary. I think Panetta and Petraeus thought the militia men had the SAMs and decided that they weren’t going to give them a target to shoot at.

And if that meant a few dead Americans, so be it. They could always cook up a story about a video and mobs out of control. It wasn’t “optimal,” but it was the best they could do.

9 posted on 11/01/2012 10:40:35 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You really have to be careful about what you say and write when your guilty conscience reminds you that there could be an impeachment or tribunal. If you’ve been honest and doing the country’s work, and not your own, then you can just talk freely.


10 posted on 11/01/2012 10:44:50 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“It was always unlikely the president and the White House would have explicitly denied a request for assistance during the attack, since it’s unlikely such a request would have been presented formally to the White House in the first place if there was a sense the White House wouldn’t approve it.”

This is NONSENSE!

THEY WERE DYING asking to be rescued!!!!
It’s not like a budget request, where you precoordinate and hope for a nod, to make the formal request.


11 posted on 11/01/2012 10:50:59 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama will deny, deny, lie, lie... based on word games...


13 posted on 11/01/2012 11:06:04 AM PDT by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Neither the President nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi during the attack,”

The real question should be, “Why didn’t anyone APPROVE the assistance.”


15 posted on 11/01/2012 11:08:43 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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21 posted on 11/01/2012 12:21:31 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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