Hurricane Sandy Live Thread II

NOAA/NHC & Various ^ | 10/29/2012 | NOAA/NHC & Various

[NautiNurse]

Late season Hurricane Sandy approaching the Eastern U.S. coast.

Sea Surface Temps

Public Advisories

NHC Tropical Discussions

Satellite Images

Local Radar & Weather: Wunderground Severe Wx Northeast
Philadelphia/New Jersey Current Wx
Delaware: Dover Air Force Base Current Wx
New York: Long Island Current Wx

Buoy Data: Current Observations

Mt. Holly NJ NWS Briefing Package for Hurricane Sandy (pdf file)

Hurricane Sandy Live Thread I

[GeronL]

Meteorologists scared!

Frankenstorm!

Worst disaster ever in the history of man, nay, the galaxy

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Also lets remember inflation, population density, overvalued real estate all are part of any “cost” estimate.

It’s as if nothing has ever flooded before.

[Windflier]

"4th Alarm still ongoing --- Now have subway fires in lower Manhattan."

Apparently, the massive flooding in the subway system will soon extinguish them...

[GeronL]

lol that was just for humor

[Jack Hydrazine]

NY updates here.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-news-blog/2012/oct/29/hurricane-sandy-new-york-live-blog

FDNY Responds to Building Collapse on 14th Street
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Building-collapse-14th-Street-FDNY-Eighth-Avenue-176335231.html

[Styria]

That was a fascade wall that collapsed. Look at the brick building next to it - the bricks are oriented the same way. A load-bearing brick wall is two layers thick, and every few rows there is a row of bricks laid perpendicular to the wall, to tie the two layers together. They're usually on the long axis of a brick building, and the other two walls will be fascade, one layer thick.

It's something firefighters have to watch out for and not park a fire truck under, because of the potential for collapse. Hopefully that vehicle in the picture arrived after the wall came down!

[American Constitutionalist]

Obama’s Katrina

[RummyChick]

ConEd explosion at 3 minute mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAqYZ433TeQ

[mfccinsd]

Thanks so much! (And I’ll follow any updates from you) Glad it shouldn’t be too bad for you guys!

[tomkat]

If you haven't checked that link for NYFD dispatch about 100 posts up thread, ya oughta.

Busy fellas tonight . . .

Or, I could paste the link right here (LOL, sorry)              FDNY Manhattan Fire Dispatch

Just now, from a truck out in it somewhere:  .. the East River is comin' over the wall ..

[Jack Hydrazine]

Think of all the great scuba diving adventures you could have now in the subway system.

[EternalHope]

...how bad would the water getting into the subway be?

The trains run on electricity. Once the tunnels are soaked in water, particularly the electrical controls and junction boxes, it will be very difficult and time consuming to dry them out and repair them sufficiently to get to get the trains going again. A previous poster pointed out that much of this is very old and spare parts for some of it will be very hard to get.

Worse, much of the city's electrical system goes through or near the same tunnels. Once soaked in salt water it seems certain that this will also be very difficult and time consuming to repair.

I suspect the city's fresh water pipes will be fine, but the pumps will stop when the electricity goes off. Same for the sewage system.

In other words, flooding the underground is much worse than the talking heads on TV seem to have figured out. I have no idea how long this will take to fix, but if these tunnels really fill up with water it won't be quick.

[metmom]

It’s not in the tropics any more?

Besides, it’s over land now. The mechanism which is keeping the storm going has changed. It’s not being fueled by 80+ degree water any more.

[RummyChick]

This is the daily news newsroom now. All power down. Three feet of water in the lobby. News crew there sitting tight in the dark. Turns out it was a good thing that I got stranded in Pittsburgh - my flight back to NYC was cancelled Sunday and I still have power here. A small crew of us still have Internet access and will continue to post updates as regularly as possible. Stay with us. Read more: http://live.nydailynews.com/Event/Tracking_Hurricane_Sandy_2/54241517#ixzz2Ak9f5Z2Y

[American Constitutionalist]

So Liberals and their convoluted logic would say that since NY City will be basically shut down for days, weeks, or even months that we should all postpone the election so those people can vote.
So would these very same liberals give the same consideration if a huge storm hit Texas, Alabama, red states ? I think not... so tuff CRAP liberals.... the show must go on.

[RummyChick]

God Bless the First Responders

manhattan

[American Constitutionalist]

Obama's Katrina....

So why didn't he have all those electrical systems upgraded with the stimulus money ?

[Jack Hydrazine]

[NautiNurse]

Major Mayor Bloomberg presser--

"if you see wire on the ground, do not touch it.".

[Betis70]

Have a high school friend who is FDNY and survived 9/11 (when 80% of his company didn’t). I sure hope he makes it through this crap-sandwich.

[RummyChick]

Kenton Jacobsen ‏@kentonjacobsen CNN retracting NYSE under 3 feet of water, says "conflicting reports" Possible source: https://twitter.com/weathercp/status/263092646917066755 … #CNNFail #MorganFail #Sandy