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Do the Rich Have a Moral Obligation to Pay Higher Taxes? CA Gov. Brown Says 'Yes'
Yahoo Finance ^ | Oct 26, 2012 | Stacy Curtin

Posted on 10/26/2012 8:40:04 AM PDT by Innovative

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The "rich are already paying plenty of taxes and they can just move out of CA and the US and then the US and state gov WILL go broke in no time.

Who pays income taxes

Top 5% pays 58.66%, top 10% pays 70.47% of all taxes. Top 50% pay 97.75%

Not to mention that they are the ones who give jobs to people...

Just think what would happen, if all the "evil rich" would move out of the US?

1 posted on 10/26/2012 8:40:12 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

answer: No.
Income taxes are determined by tax laws and IRS regulations, not by moral obligation.
It sounds lke they want to apply the ethics of Immanuel Kant to a non-moral issue: an unconditional moral law that applies to all rational beings and is independent of any personal motive or desire.


2 posted on 10/26/2012 8:44:51 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (yup-Who knew??)
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Does the US government have a moral obligation to not discriminate against US citizens?


3 posted on 10/26/2012 8:46:04 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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Hell no!!

The poor are using all the taxes, tax them more than the rich!!!


4 posted on 10/26/2012 8:48:51 AM PDT by dalereed
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Do the wealthiest Americans have a "moral" obligation to pay higher taxes?

...well, I would say that it all depends on who you ask, doesn't it? Ask the bum on the street and most of the dead-beat moron American Obama voters, and I am sure that the ans would be a resounding YES!

OTH, ask the "rich" and I would suspect that the ans would be NO...and I would bet that if the "middle class" were asked, the answer would be NO.

The proper answer to all this is that EVERYONE SHOULD PAY SOMETHING....even the "poor".

If we are to be stuck with the graduated income tax scheme, then there should be a minimum tax over and above payroll taxes that everyone should be required to pay.

5 posted on 10/26/2012 8:51:36 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance.....)
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Oh, let Jerry raise tons of taxes off the backs of all those richie dot com workers. Less bucks to lib dim politicians...like Jerry!
Karma, dontchano....


6 posted on 10/26/2012 8:53:16 AM PDT by matginzac (Nici)
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Everyone has a moral obligation to be charitable.

Everyone also has a moral obligation to NOT STEAL.

When one group of people decides to take money from another group, and passes a law to do so, it isn’t moral. It is still theft.

It is up to each person how they should be charitable. It is not up to some third party and it is certainly not up to the democrat party.

Voluntarily paying higher taxes is one of the worst ways to be charitable - inefficient and wasteful.


7 posted on 10/26/2012 8:54:27 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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Does the US Government have a moral obligation to not waste Billions of our tax dollars year after year?


8 posted on 10/26/2012 8:56:01 AM PDT by BradtotheBone (Moderate Democrat - A politician whose voting record leans left and whose vote can be bought.)
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I’ll try to write this in Obamaspeak: “At some point!? You’ve made enough!


9 posted on 10/26/2012 8:59:13 AM PDT by 1raider1
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The elected frauds in government are the ones with the MORAL OBLIGATION to not overspend taxpayers money. California has a SPENDING PROBLEM not a REVENUE PROBLEM. The unions lead the frauds in our government around by the nose. Every state that has union control through campaign donations and election blackmail is in the same financial position. This will not change as long as the socialist democrats keep being re-elected. They are in bed with them and will not take on the union thugs. The democrat solution, as always, is to raise taxes to cover their overspending, as evidenced by Jerry Brownshirt.


10 posted on 10/26/2012 8:59:31 AM PDT by spawn44 (moo)
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Do the wealthiest Americans have a "moral" obligation to pay higher taxes?

No. People have a moral obligation to desire what is really good and only what is really good. One thing that is really good is a division of labor society, because it is necessary to capital accumulation, which is necessary for prosperity and life proper to a rational being. Raising taxes on the rich is an assault on saving and accumulation of capital, which inhibits the intensification of the degree of the division of labor.

11 posted on 10/26/2012 8:59:40 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Democratic Governor is calling for a 3% tax hike on the state's richest 1%

No, he isn't. He's calling for a 3% tax hike on those whose income is the highest. Big difference. Someone could have accumulated $2,000,000 and is now retired. With the current low rates of interest, maybe he puts his money in a CD or a bond that pays 3%. That would generate income of $60,000 per year. His $2 million in net worth would probably put him in the upper 1% of wealth, whereas his $60,000 in income most certainly would not.

If the libs are so interested in taxing the rich, why don't they propose a wealth tax rather than an increase in the income tax? Maybe a lot of wealthy libs wouldn't like that.

12 posted on 10/26/2012 9:00:00 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Benghazi murders due to spontaneous riot over a video. Or terrorism. Depends on the day.)
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Do welfare recipients have a moral obligation to contribute to their own well being? To civilization? To their community? To feed the children they choose to have and ensure they are properly educated?

Moral men will not live as slaves dummy Brown. They will flee your personal little slice of hell.


13 posted on 10/26/2012 9:01:34 AM PDT by formosa
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Does the large body of Ameritrash have a moral obligation to pay no taxes? Have they no fair share?

A pox be upon them


14 posted on 10/26/2012 9:01:57 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Innovative; Grampa Dave; tubebender; budwiesest; WilliamofCarmichael; NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; ...

Hey! Moonbeam’s always been a Commonist supported by his insestous relationship with labor!!!


15 posted on 10/26/2012 9:03:21 AM PDT by SierraWasp ("The New Normal," is FAR from any normality!!!)
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We in CA have a resentful radical in the statehouse and America has a resentful radical in the whitehouse!!!


16 posted on 10/26/2012 9:05:07 AM PDT by SierraWasp ("The New Normal," is FAR from any normality!!!)
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Funny how the Leftists are big on Morality only when it comes to paying more taxes. I would ask the Gov. does he feel that the gov’t is moraly Obligated to Spend OUR TAX MONEY wisely??


17 posted on 10/26/2012 9:05:08 AM PDT by jakerobins
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A heavily graduated income tax may be Plank #2 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto, but don't you DARE call Jerry a Communist!

The Ten Planks of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto
(and How Statists Implement Them)

  1. Abolition of private property rights (via high property taxes, restrictive zoning laws, "fair housing" edicts, environmental and "wetlands" regulations, UN Agenda 21, etc.)

  2. Institution of a heavily graduated income tax (by calling it "taxing the rich")

  3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance (through a confiscatory estate tax on "the rich")

  4. Confiscation of the property of enemies of the state (through lawless application of asset forfeiture and eminent domain)

  5. Centralization of credit into the hands of the state (Federal Reserve, Federal Trade Commission, TARP, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, federal takeover of student loans, etc.)

  6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation into the hands of the state (FCC, DOT, FEMA, NTSB, FAA, etc.).

  7. Consolidation and subjugation of all major industries to central government control (FDA, EPA, OSHA, ICC, HUD, NLRB, EEOC, DOE, TSA etc.)

  8. Mandatory labor union membership (teachers and other public-sector unions, planned unionization of 21-million Obamacare health care workers, automatic withholding of forced union dues, "card check," etc.)

  9. Equitable redistribution of all wealth (TANF, SSI, EITC, SNAP, etc.)

  10. Free public education (and food and health care and cell phones and Internet access, etc.)

18 posted on 10/26/2012 9:05:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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The rich have an obligation to build prisons and populate them with socialists.


19 posted on 10/26/2012 9:06:18 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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The “rich” are so sick of paying the freight for the losers. Pretty soon they’ll begin to go Galt and stop feeding the pig. Then what will the takers do, when they’ve killed the goose that laid the golden egg?


20 posted on 10/26/2012 9:08:26 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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