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Bayonet Assault Course at Boot Camp
Oct 27 2010 | MidWestMarines

Posted on 10/22/2012 11:40:31 PM PDT by NoLibZone

YOUTUBE showing bayonet training.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADBBekiLkoE


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bayonets; bayonetsandhorses; debate3; elections2012; presidentialdebate

1 posted on 10/22/2012 11:40:36 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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2 posted on 10/22/2012 11:52:58 PM PDT by McBuff
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Staff Sgt. Bryan Reza, drill instructor, Company B, 1st Recruit Training Battalion,
corrects recruit Kevin D. Dezelske, Platoon 1035, Co. B, as he learns bayonet techniques
as part of the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program training aboard Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego.
Each recruit is taught how to properly execute bayonet techniques and then put in a simulated combat environment.
(Photo by Lance Cpl. Crystal Druery)

Company B recruits learn bayonet techniques

By Lance Cpl. Bridget M. Keane

Each recruit is issued their own M-16A4 service rifle in phase one of recruit training and taught from the very beginning how and why their rifle will become their best friend. They must know every function of a rifle and how to fully operate one when it comes to marksmanship, as well as how to defend themselves in worst-case scenarios when ammunition is no longer useful to them. Through the bayonet assault course, each recruit is taught how to properly execute bayonet techniques and are put in a simulated combat situation, said Griebenow, a 25-year-old Jackson, Mich. native. A bayonet is a knife designed to fit underneath the muzzle of a rifle effectively turning it into a spear. The recruits are taught thrusts, jabs, and slashes with bayonets. They then utilize them in a course with dummies designed to simulate a combat environment.

“The big mindset is to prepare and expose them to close combat situations,” said Staff Sgt. John A. Saracuy, chief drill instructor, Co. B, 1st RTBn. “In a worst-case scenario when they have to use the bayonet, they have the natural instinct of how to properly defend themselves.”


3 posted on 10/23/2012 1:26:04 AM PDT by greedo
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A great article on the older US combat bayonets.

http://www.thegca.org/pdfs/Bayonets409.pdf

I collect bayonets and even have one or two M-9/M-10 bayonets. I think they’re too heavy/bulky and a bit oversized in the width department. To me, an M-4 with an
M-9/10 bayonet seems kind of short reached.

With an M1905 at 16” on a 1903 or even Garand, you didn’t have to get too close to the enemy.


4 posted on 10/23/2012 4:04:54 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Watch and save this video !!!!

As we learned last night in the debate, bayonets are not used by military forces.

Our grand kids will enjoy seeing these military artifacts..... as they do our phonograph records.


5 posted on 10/23/2012 4:22:19 AM PDT by llevrok (By comparison to Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: Gaffer

Drill Sgt...Whats the spirit of the bayonet?

TO KILL..I remember those drills were intense


6 posted on 10/23/2012 4:24:02 AM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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Well it looks to me like getting close to the enemy is exactly what they are trying to do here.


Marine Corps Videos | "Week 3: Bayonet Assault Course"

Week 3: Bayonet Assault Course

If we look right here, you've got your M16 A2 service rifle, you understand that?

Yes, sir!

This is a bayonet trainer; you understand that?

Yes, sir!

What you're going to have is an actual live bayonet; we understand that?

Yes, sir!

These techniques that you're gonna learn are to kill your opponent.

Yes, sir!

It's gonna look like this. I'm stepping forward, extend my weapon out. You understand that?

Yes, sir!

Then I retracted my rear foot in bringing my weapon back in. You understand that?

Yes, sir!

Through my opponent, you understand that?

Yes, sir!

When you get out there on my bayonet assault course, they're going to try to destroy everything on that assault course.

Yes, sir!

Get up, give me everything you got!

Yes, sir!

Get on your feet right now!

Aaaah! … Marine Corps, Marine Corps, Marine Corps!

When I say, "Go," you say, "Yes sir!" Go!

Aaaah! … Marine Corps, Marine Corps, Marine Corps!

You should be happy because you just destroyed my course.

Aye sir!

You understand that, right?

Yes, sir!

You should be pretty content with yourself.

Yes, sir!

You understand that, right?

Yes, sir.

7 posted on 10/23/2012 4:31:27 AM PDT by greedo
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That’s not the bayonet training I remember, this is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFV5kfXNqbU


8 posted on 10/23/2012 4:40:03 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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I always figured if the enemy was close enough to bayonet, they were close enough to shoot. $;-)
9 posted on 10/23/2012 4:56:31 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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This, I think, is appropriate for this thread:

Soldier who led Afghanistan bayonet charge into hail of bullets honoured

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2948848/posts


10 posted on 10/23/2012 5:51:44 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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Then I retracted my rear foot in bringing my weapon back in. You understand that?

Yeah...the blood fuller is supposed to help with the wound vacuum retention problem.....the new M-9/10s don't have much of one, if at all IIRC.....

11 posted on 10/23/2012 10:17:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Try it in the middle of a mag change or a jam....


12 posted on 10/23/2012 10:25:38 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Just funnin' with ya.


13 posted on 10/23/2012 10:56:07 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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yeah...it has one...a short one (at least for this non-bayonet version - BTW I have 10 or 12 KaBars of varying degrees) ....take a look at an M1905 or one cut down to 10% for a Garand...damn near the full length...like I said, I’ve got a couple M-9/10s and I’ve got about 100 others...this one disappoints in comparison to very many.


14 posted on 10/23/2012 11:01:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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As an FMF corpsman I found that blade length made much less difference then how and where it was applied. No one who is intent on killing someone and has any concept at all will have no problem with anything 6" or greater (kitchen knives qualify). Again, this is my observation and individual mileage may vary.

I have handled bayos, both modern as well as those used on '03 Springfields and the like, and they essentially turn a rifle into a clumsy but serviceable spear. OK, although I'd hate to have to conduct MOUT with a 12" blade on my rifle. A short sword may be better; the fact that the Gurkhas use their Kukris with such great effect lends truth to that idea, not to mention how our own men in Vietnam often employed machetes for close encounters.

15 posted on 10/23/2012 12:07:20 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Yeah...the newer bayos were cut down due to troop deployment conditions (trucks jeeps, etc. where there is not much open room) and in the M-16 era, that rifle doesn’t have the weight/momentum behind it to stick a 16” deep target...

My only complaint is that there isn’t any elegance to a modern bayo...they’ve been overthought. If you want to cut slice something, use a double edged SOG with a razor edge.


16 posted on 10/23/2012 12:12:22 PM PDT by Gaffer
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