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Mittmentum: New polls in Ohio Better Than They Appear
National Review ^ | 10/21/12 | Josh Jordan

Posted on 10/21/2012 8:00:21 PM PDT by KansasGirl

Two new Ohio polls came out yesterday after my Ohio post, from from Gravis Marketing and PPP, both of which point to a razor-thin race in the most coveted swing state. A closer look at each poll shows just how much Romney has gained since the debates, and why he would be absolutely thrilled if these polls were accurate on Election Day.

The poll from Gravis Marketing shows Obama and Romney tied at 47 percent. But that’s as good as it gets for Obama. Among the most interesting tidbits from the poll:

Romney leads Obama by 19 percent among independents, 52–33, and holds 92 percent of his base compared to Obama’s 87 percent. Obama is underwater in job approval, 44–50, and independents disapprove of him overwhelmingly, 31–58. And the poll has a Democratic advantage of 9 percent, which is a 4 percent jump from 2008 — no one believes that Democrats can match their 2008 turnout advantage, let alone almost double it.

PPP (a Democratic firm) released their new poll yesterday showing Obama only up one point, 49 to 48. Just a week ago PPP had the race at 51–46 for Obama. But the four-point gain for Romney is even more impressive when you look at the poll’s findings:

This week’s poll has a Democrat sample advantage of 8 percent; last week’s advantage was 4. Romney gained four points on Obama in a week despite the sample’s having four percentage points more Democrats. Romney leads with independents by 7 percent, up from a 5 percent last week. Obama’s approval is underwater at 48–50, and independents disapprove of him by a 41–54 margin. Last week Obama was in positive approval ground at 50–48, and independents disapproved by a much smaller 45–50 margin.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingstates; oh2012; ohio; polls
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1 posted on 10/21/2012 8:00:29 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: KansasGirl

Have to expect the undecideds to break 3/1 Romney. They already know Onama.


2 posted on 10/21/2012 8:03:31 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: KansasGirl

I look at these approval/disapproval numbers and can’t wrap my head around the fact that Obama is ahead of Romney in Ohio. It doesn’t make sense to me.


3 posted on 10/21/2012 8:04:13 PM PDT by Catsrus (Ma)
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To: KansasGirl

Even the Marxist’s staunchest supporters know he’s a pathological liar.

Speaks volumes about them.


4 posted on 10/21/2012 8:06:28 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Catsrus

Makes sense if you over-sample Democrats by 9 points...


5 posted on 10/21/2012 8:06:46 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Support hate crime laws: Because some victims are more equal than others.)
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To: Catsrus

Because Obama is not.


6 posted on 10/21/2012 8:07:19 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Catsrus

I’m in Ohio and you should know the following:

1. Kasich tried to limit public union rights and was beaten in a referendum. Really got the uniouns going strong.
2. The auto industry bail out is a plus for Obama.
3. The economy is doing better—this has more to do with Kasich and his pro fracking policies but it actually helps Obama with the low information voter.

Still my republican buddies are pumped and think Romney will win. Obama is hated in SE Ohio- coal country with lots of bitter clingers!


7 posted on 10/21/2012 8:11:16 PM PDT by don'tbedenied
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To: don'tbedenied

I wish somebody would run a poll of Ohio with a large properly balanced sample of 1,500 at 35R-35D-30I so we can get a telling read!!!!!!!!!


8 posted on 10/21/2012 8:18:43 PM PDT by SouthernFreePatriot
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To: don'tbedenied

Scioto County, Southern Ohio. I’m not seeing Obama signs. I see clusters of democrat signs but they’re almost all missing Obama sins.


9 posted on 10/21/2012 8:24:22 PM PDT by far sider
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+ 9 Dem is just laughable.


10 posted on 10/21/2012 8:25:42 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: far sider

OHIO will be the likely decider just like happened with Bush v. Kerry. Time for the RNC to flood OH and PA with non-stop ads.


11 posted on 10/21/2012 9:16:24 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: KansasGirl
This just in for Ohio. 0bama takes all OH electoral votes. Sherrod (D) wins Senate.

In congressional races, Republican wins in districts 1, 2, 8, 27 and 30. 'Dem wins in districts 28, 29, 31.

Ohio 2012 Results

12 posted on 10/21/2012 9:21:18 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; nutmeg; SoFloFreeper; Ravi; ...

Poll ping.


13 posted on 10/21/2012 9:26:16 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 elections.)
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To: far sider
I see clusters of democrat signs but they’re almost all missing Obama sins.

But with all those sins of his, where would you start?

14 posted on 10/21/2012 9:27:44 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: C210N

Come back on Nov. 7th.


15 posted on 10/21/2012 9:47:34 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: C210N

Interesting simulation. Who the heck is Scott Rupert?


16 posted on 10/21/2012 10:20:45 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: C210N

Mandel gets more votes for senate than Romney gets for president? Not likely.


17 posted on 10/21/2012 10:35:24 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: C210N

Did you check those “results?” No winner has been named and NO votes have been counted yet in ANY of those races.

I’m sure its a software-related glitch. Don’t read anything into it.


18 posted on 10/21/2012 11:18:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: don'tbedenied

Thanks for the info. I had been figuring point 2 for a while, but I hadn’t realized about the others. I hope it’s not enough for an Obama repeat.


19 posted on 10/22/2012 12:44:36 AM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: Catsrus

I look at these approval/disapproval numbers and can’t wrap my head around the fact that Obama is ahead of Romney in Ohio. It doesn’t make sense to me.

Our local news has turned into good news central where nothing bad ever happens. This morning it was how wonderful Xmas is going to be for retailers and falling gas prices. That explains some of it.


20 posted on 10/22/2012 3:54:11 AM PDT by Buck-I-Guy
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