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This seems like backward logic to me, how bout the freeper community?
1 posted on 10/21/2012 11:37:43 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

In theory a random poll should find the statistical identification. But they aren’t truly random. Too many lifestyle issues interfering, IMHO. R’s either don’t or won’t answer because of cultural proclivities...


2 posted on 10/21/2012 11:45:50 AM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: dila813

Couldn’t find the full link, but n’ertheless Gallup (and other polling institutions) may be truthful when they say they do not weigh their samples after party affiliation. However, if there is reason to believe that the party split is 35/35/30 then a result showing a 30/40/30 split should raise questionmarks? However, they never seem to question their onw polls that way.

Recently, as has been discussed on a number of threads, the weighting that is carried out, namely according to race and gender, has skewed the polls towards Obama (surprise, surprise) by over-weigthing for women and reducing the number of white voters. Of course this will show up also as a smaller number of GOP voters.


4 posted on 10/21/2012 11:50:09 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: dila813

If you’re not weighting by party affiliation it doesn’t matter when or if you ask the question of party preference.

Now that I know Gallup doesn’t weight by party affiliation I understand their poll a lot better.


5 posted on 10/21/2012 11:51:03 AM PDT by Quicksilver (The "RR" is back!)
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To: dila813
I think it's a flawed strategy, but in a dynamic political environment so is the strategy of employing turnout models based largely on the previous election.

Bottom line is that I think the likely result is somewhere between how people self-identify and what actually occurred in 2008. Having said that, then Romney's lead is bounded on the lower end at 0 and on the high end at 7...a pretty good place to be two weeks out.

8 posted on 10/21/2012 11:56:23 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: dila813

I actually think that is a valid methodology so long as the screen for likely voters is valid. What did he say about their likely voter screen methodology?


9 posted on 10/21/2012 11:56:25 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: dila813

They know some groups are more likely to vote than be contacted by and answer a poll.

But weighting to “fix” this can just make it less accurate.

Some polls weight by party assuming the ratio will be same as 2008. Not likely.


11 posted on 10/21/2012 11:59:27 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: dila813

i think it is a mistake not to try to weight by party affiliation. It’s a guess, but so is the screen for likely voter. It also makes sense to reweight by gender and race, if voting behavior varies a lot by gender and racial lines.

The exit polls don’t have any issue with identifying “likely voters”, gender and race, but still can get it wrong due to high rates of non-response by specific voter groups, usually republicans. Reweighting by party as well as the other factors can control partly for that.


21 posted on 10/21/2012 12:19:31 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Obama explains the ALCS: the Yankees actually played great but lost due to mistakes by Joe Torre)
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To: dila813

If you get all the other demographics profile correct then you don’t really need to weigh party affiliation, because that is something that can change with every political season.

The key here is getting all the known demographics profile correct.


28 posted on 10/21/2012 12:30:36 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: dila813

They do admit to weighting polls by race though, and they are undersampling whites by about 10 percent.


40 posted on 10/21/2012 12:57:05 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: dila813

[ We only ask the person after we have polled them who they currently self-identify with at the end of the poll for informational purposes. ]

WEll DUUUUUGH... talk about a “TELL”... i.e. poker


43 posted on 10/21/2012 2:09:08 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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