Obama: I am coming after the guns and I will screen gun owners

Human Events ^ | 10/17/2012 | Neil W McCabe

[IbJensen]

Crowley cuts off Romney’s Fast and Furious remarks at Obama’s behest

In the Oct. 16 presidential debate between President Barack Obama and GOP challenger W. Mitt Romney, when the president dropped the pretense of being neutral on restricting gun rights with a key assist from moderator Candy Crowley, hostess of the CNN program “State of the Nation.”

After his policies were rebuked in the 1994 midterms, President William J. Clinton, blamed more than anything else his support for a national ban on so-called assault weapons. It must have been a calculated move for Obama to suggest he would bring back the ban that had expired.

The questioner asked the president what he had done to fulfill his 2008 promise to keep AK-47’s and so-called assault weapons out of the hands of criminals.

Americans support the Second Amendment, he said. Then, those concerned about gun rights waited for the “but.”

They did not have to wait long.

“But there have been too many instances during the course of my presidency, where I’ve had to comfort families who have lost somebody,” he said.

“We have to enforce the laws we’ve already got, make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill,” he said.

“We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement,” he said. “What I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced.”

Obama said it made sense to him that weapons designed for soldiers should not be in the hands of civilians.

Perhaps sensing the a coming retort, the president acknowledged his own city of Chicago, a city with some of the strictest gun laws in the country, is rife with gun violence. “Frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.”

Message: We are coming after the hand guns, too.

The president and his campaign have been quick to point out that in the last four years, the administration has not proposed new restrictions on gun rights. In the Oct. 16 debate, Obama crossed that line with not only a call for responsible gun ownership, but also with his support for screening Americans for their mental capacity to exercise their guns rights.

Like trying to get off the No-Fly List, Americans who find themselves on the No-Gun List, like veterans, who seek counseling, have no process to appeal or otherwise adjudicate their status–a status bestowed upon them with the stroke of a bureaucrat’s pen and often without notice.

For his part, Romney got caught up in the law he signed in Massachusetts that banned so-called “assault weapons.” It is a position that Romney took with the cooperation of the National Rifle Association because it loosened other gun restrictions.

The former Bay State governor scored some serious points with he brought up the Fast and Furious scandal, unfortunately, the rogue moderator stepped in again to interrupt Romney and break up his rhetorical momentum.

“The – the greatest failure we’ve had with regards to – to gun violence in some respects is what – what is known as Fast and Furious. Which was a program under this administration, and how it worked exactly I think we don’t know precisely, where thousands of automatic, and AK-47 type weapons were – were given to people that ultimately gave them to – to drug lords,” Romney said.

“They used those weapons against – against their own citizens and killed Americans with them. And this was a – this was a program of the government,” he said. “I’d like to understand who it was that did this, what the idea was behind it, why it led to the violence, thousands of guns going to Mexican drug lords.”

The president used one of his lifelines: “Candy?”

The immoderate moderator interceded: ”Governor, Governor, if I could, the question was about these assault weapons that once were once banned and are no longer banned.” There could be no discussion of the Justice Department program that sent thousands of military-style long guns to Mexican crime organizations. Because? Because, no reason, because–and that was that.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

http://clinpsyc.blogspot.com/2009/01/were-all-mentally-disordered-college.html

Mental Health screenings would disqualify at least 50% of college age America, and the methodology for diagnosing them, is crap.

“A study in the December 2008 issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry concluded that almost half of college aged Americans suffered from a DSM-IV disorder over a one-year timeframe. Yes, I am behind the curve on this one — Furious Seasons was all over this last month (1, 2). Rather than rant about the very odd idea that half of young adults are suffering from a mental disorder, I want to start by mentioning one aspect of the study — perhaps the most important one. Let’s look at how the diagnoses were assigned. To quote from the study:

All of the diagnoses were made according to DSM-IV criteria using the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism Alcohol Use Disorder and Associated Disabilities Interview Schedule–DSM-IV version, a valid and reliable fully structured diagnostic interview designed for use by professional interviewers who are not clinicians.”

[marktwain]

Is it because he simply screed up and told us what he really thinks, or was is a conscious move made necessary by the lack of enthusiasm of his base?

I watched it. It was clear to me that he screwed up and let a hint of his real thoughts through. There is no "base" for gun control, in any sense of numbers. Even among Democrat voters, there are far more that support the Second Amendment than denigrate it. You even see this on Democrat Underground.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Any contact at all, 2nd Amendment Rights, Gone.

Here’s a few of their excuses.

2 Beers? Gone, permanently, Officially insane.
303.00 Alcohol Intoxication
http://behavenet.com/alcohol-intoxication

Smoke cigarettes? Gone, permanently, Officially insane.
305.10 Nicotine Dependence
http://behavenet.com/nicotine

Quit smoking? Gone, permanently, Officially insane.
292.0 Nicotine Withdrawal
http://behavenet.com/nicotine-withdrawal

Have a peek through the psychiatric book.
You’ll notice that a lot of their diseases are temporary intoxications.
And for All of them, Gone, permanently, Officially insane.
http://behavenet.com/dsm-iv-tr-numerical-listing-codes-and-diagnoses

How about this one for science?
292.9 Nicotine-Related Disorder NOS
http://behavenet.com/not-otherwise-specified

374 psychiatric excuses aren’t enough, so they write them up as insane due to Not Otherwise Specified.

[TexasRepublic]

Anyone who can’t see the need for “reasonable” gun control has to be crazy, so why bother with formalized evaluations? Sorry Comrade, your application to own a gun has been denied. Proceed to Camp No. 327 for reeducation, you should not even desire to own dangerous weapons. What is wrong with you? If you want to play army, then join the army.

[freebird5850]

“But there have been too many instances during the course of my presidency, where I’ve had to comfort families who have lost somebody,”

Not true, at Ft Hood he gave a shout-out. So uncalled for I can't describe it.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

But of course. And they have treatments which will make those crazy people happy and mentally healthy.

http://ssristories.com/

http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/NLPs/Lehmannneuroleptics-suicide2012.pdf

http://jannel.se/suicide.psychiatricdrugs.pdf

http://www.ect.org/resources/machines.html

Just trust in the system and all will be well. And that’s because they’re experts who own the keys to the secret knowledge.

http://home.earthlink.net/~thetabus/eugenics/eutt-6.htm

1939 An interview with psychiatrist Carl Jung is published in Hearst’s International- Cosmopolitan. In it, he calls Mussolini a man of style and good taste who was “warm and human.” About Hitler, he says, “There is no question but that Hitler belongs in the category of the truly mystic medicine man. As somebody commented about him at the last Nuremberg party congress, since the time of Mohammed nothing like it has been seen in this world. This markedly mystic characteristic of Hitler’s is what makes him do things which seem to us illogical, inexplicable, curious and unreasonable...So you see, Hitler is a medicine man, a form of a spiritual vessel, a demi-deity or, even better, a myth.”

[Gaffer]

He can only go to his hardcore base now. Everyone else it seems is deserting him. He doesn’t care about any gun owner vote now.

[MercedesB]

Ping

[bmwcyle]

Stop by any time Obama. Come alone.