Posted on 10/17/2012 10:06:03 AM PDT by tatown
I wonder if they have some internal polling showing a problem for Obama in California?
Well, if it’s a setup, in order to begin inflating zero’s numbers for a fictitious comeback, then Gallup can kiss their credibility good-bye. These final couple of weeks of the campaign are when pollsters need to start putting out the real numbers, or they’ll be a laughingstock.
No way Obama won over any undecideds last night. Undecideds needed to hear from Obama why another four years under him would be any different than the last four. Obama did not even attempt to make that case last night. Thus, undecideds will break this year they way the traditionally do — heavily in favor of the challenger.
I’ve been saying Romney would get 55%. Looks like he’s homing in...
“Obama did not even attempt to make that case last night. Thus, undecideds will break this year they way the traditionally do — heavily in favor of the challenger.”
I think you’re right and certainly hope so. But I gotta say I’m sick of this “undecided voter”, at least the ones portrayed in the town hall and in the media in general. Like they are so above the rest of us who actually have a philosophy and long thought out ideas. Like the putz in the first question whining that one of the candidates needs to give him a job, and afterwards said that Romney looked right at him and that made him feel good and Obama’s answer comforted him. What a puss.
They are so proud of the fact they have been clueless for four years and now everyone is begging them for their opinion and their vote.
Yeah I know we need these folks but had to vent.
I think they’re giving up. I haven’t even been getting the please for the $3 dollar donations for the last week or so.
Oops, scratch that. Come to think of it, I have been getting the deadline letters. “Just think, we wanted to raise $100,000 by midnight tonight. We’re just $4187.00 from the goal. Can’t you help us to defeat Sata... er Romney?”
They’re using every scam in the book to raise quarters for the children...
Gag me.
I remember you thinking that Obama would struggle in PA in 2008, but I have to agree with you this go round about the enthusiasm for Obama. It’s just not there. I live in a fairly liberal college town and it was literally plastered wall to wall with Obama crap in 2008—signs, stickers, you name it.
I can honestly say I have seen more Romney signs here than Obama this year. It is night and day different. Obama isn’t winning Missouri anyway, but even in the liberal leaning area I am in he is getting remotely the public support he did in 2008. Not even close.
My guess is OH is breaking towards Romney, hard. But if it is not then the reasons would be:
Auto bailout
Unemployment 1 point lower than national average - thank you governor Kasich
And public employees still angry over attempts at curtailing collective bargaining - again, thank you governor Kasicn.
Gallup is the best to compare to past elections as they are the oldest. They show a trend, which is for Romney. I keep reading about other polls which show Obama doing (relatively) poorly in ALL groups compared to 2008, and in some groups he is doing terribly in comparison. I will be shocked if Obama doesn’t lose by at least 5 points.
If only a more reliable polling group duplicated those results.
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Call me a a conspiracy theorist, but could they be setting the table for the first president ever to come back from this big of a Gallup deficit in 3 weeks kind of scenario?
I know it’s a bit of a stretch, but could they be trying to cement him as the true “comeback kid” and therefore, all of America will need to bow down to him? I dunno...seeing this and seeing the Rasmussen just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
I trust Rasmussen a lot more as he has historically been very accurate. I just think that there are too many freeloaders who want to keep this guy around for four (or more) years.
Woo Hoo and this is pre-drama.......er debate! LOL
Ohio is Romneys...I guarantee it. I lived here forever, I can feel it...
Anecdotal: Every once in awhile when I’m out on appointments I’ll decide to start counting Obama/Romeny yard signs for the next 10 miles of driving. Today it was R-12 O-zero This sounds nuts, but I swear Obama signs are actually decreasing.
As far as Gallup, I’m a bit skeptical and also wonder about the ‘comeback kid’ scenario being set up. Either way it doesn’t matter. The table has been set and debate #3 is going to BURY Obama and put him neatly away. I don’t see how it can’t.
Just keep telling yourself that Rasmussen is the most accurate pollster for some time now.
This poll raises the question of over-confidence in the same way as other polls raised the question of demoralization, despondency, and depression.
Both are strategies designed to prevent voting.
These numbers are encouraging. Let’s do some more numbers crunching. Even if you pull out 1% for all of the 3rd-party candidates combined, Romney & Obama are fighting over the other 99%. 50-46 leaves 3%. History shows undecideds will ultimately choose the challenger over the incumbent. 2-2½ for Romney puts him at 52%+. That’s a win in my book!
Are you sure those arent just national ads?
This is excellent news, even though it’s only one poll. I’ll be looking at others hoping to find simiilar results. I’ve been critical of Mitt Romney and still am, but he’s our only shot at saving the nation from a second Obama term.
alternate universe. Like Fringe
52% is the target planning factor for a Republican, to overcome the expected democrat fraud factor.
My guess has been a 53% win. Every point above that will bring in a lot of coattails further down the ticket.
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We are getting too worked up over this. The pollsters and the media are always our enemies.
Does anyone seriously think that the media and the polls are incapable of simply printing a positive number for Obama a few days before the election?
They’ll make up whatever numbers are necessary to have a “comeback kid” moment. It will make the loser look slightly less loser to encourage the dems to go vote. And to hide all the voter fraud that will happen.
You know, “He won fairly, after all look at that comeback he had right before the election!”
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