Billy Graham's group removes Mormon cult reference from website after Romney meeting

CNN ^ | 10/16/12 | Eric Marrapodi

[Clint N. Suhks]

Shortly after Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney enjoyed cookies and soft drinks with the Rev. Billy Graham and his son Franklin Graham on Thursday at the elder Graham's mountaintop retreat, a reference to Mormonism as a cult was scrubbed from the website of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.

In a section of the website called Billy Graham's My Answer there had been the question "What is a cult?"

Answer: "A cult is any group which teaches doctrines or beliefs that deviate from the biblical message of the Christian faith."

"Some of these groups are Jehovah's Witnesess, Mormons, the Unification Church, Unitarians, Spritualists, Scientologists, and others," the site continued.

No longer. On Tuesday, the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association confirmed that page has recently been removed from the site.

“Our primary focus at the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association has always been promoting the Gospel of Jesus Christ," Ken Barun, chief of staff for the association, told CNN in a statement. "We removed the information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign."

[svcw]

Ok, I give - shoes?
Pretty sure you maybe trying to be cryptic, could you try and be more direct next time?

[svcw]

Brilliant

[Patton@Bastogne]

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Yep ...

"Makes Good Sense ..."


I can just imagine Moses, Joshua, Eijah, John the Baptist ...

and Jesus Christ Himself ...

"softening" their criticisms of the "spiritual blasphemys" of their own day ...

just to not offend the pagan Eqyptians, Amelekites and Romans ...




Like I stated the other day ...

As much as I respect him ... Rev.Billy Grahamn "sold-out" when he gave Myth Romney his quasi-endorsement ...

Just wondering ... with all due respect (of course) ...

exactly what Myth offered as his "thirty pieces of silver" ?




You know, it says in the Scriptures that, except with the Holy Spirit's help ...

"even the very elect would be decieved by the anti-christ ..."



I've now ... for the first time in my life ... seen that actually happen ...

with Billy Grahmn's endorsement of "Myth Romney" ...




"Myth Romney" the self-proclaimed Celestial God-Child from the "Severely Conservative" MORMON planet Kolob ... located in the Constellation Cancer ...

"Myth Romney" who worships (as a god) the same Joseph Smith who called himself the "Second Mohammed" ...

whose proclaimed goal was the VIOLENT destruction of the American Christian church ...

and the OVERTHROW of the U.S. Constitutional Republic ...

with a MORMON THEOCRACY ...




Has Rev. Billy Grahamn just effectively ended his "spiritual career" in the same SHAMEFUL manner as Penn State football coach Joe Paterno ?


I say "yes" ...



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[Liberty Valance]

That meeting must have gone pretty well.

I suspect the Hobbitses of the Shire will also align themselves against Mordor.

[svcw]

Harsh, which doesn’t make it incorrect.

[Elsie]

"We removed the information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign."

Some thinks this makes good sense.

I wonder...

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The Book seems to indicate something else.

 

 

Romans 16:17
I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

 

2 Thessalonians 3:6
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us.

 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
3. As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
4. nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.

 

1 Timothy 1:7
They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

 

 

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1 Timothy 4:1-2
1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
2. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

 

1 Timothy 4:6
If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.

 

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1 Timothy 6:3-5
3. If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4. he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5. and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

 

 

2 Timothy 2:15-17
15. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
16. Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
17. Their teaching will spread like gangrene.

 

 

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2 Timothy 4:3-4
3. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

 

 

Titus 1:11

They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.

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2 John 1:10
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

[Elsie]

Let's just defeat the communists first.

Worried more about FREEDOM than SALVATION?

[riri]

True but my point is identify who is the biggest threat to you collectively and unite to defeat that threat.

Or at least stop weakening yourselves in the process of trying to defeat that threat.

In my mind, there is no bigger threat than the communists.

[Elsie]

They didn’t bother to tag nonbelievers’ or heretics’ religious organizations with a special name.

Only FALSE TEACHERs or hypocritical liars!

[Elsie]

But WAIT!!

There's MORE!!!

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses

, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

 

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[River Hawk]

“We removed the information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign.”

Give me a break. It was removing Mormonism from its cult list that “politicized” the issue.

It’s one thing for the Grahams to endorse Romney as a candidate. After all, there aren’t many options. But it’s another thing entirely to change their doctrinal emphasis as a result of it.

This is disappointing.

[Patton@Bastogne]

“Well Done” ...

[svcw]

True communism is a temporal threat.
mormonism (cults) is/are an eternal threat.

— n
1. advocacy of a classless society in which private ownership has been abolished and the means of production and subsistence belong to the community
2. any social, economic, or political movement or doctrine aimed at achieving such a society

[Springfield Reformer]

There’s a difference between working for a nonbeliever and giving aid and comfort to a cultist whose mission it is to cause people to believe in a false god and a false christ. I would not voluntarily choose to work under such a person. Paul says we cannot avoid contact with unbelievers. But neither can we avoid the Apostolic warning against giving even a greeting to one who brings a false Gospel. See 1 John 1:10-11. If we collaborate with these folks, we share in their guilt. Don’t get mad at me. Take it up with the Apostle John. Going soft on false Gospels is not an option. We cannot trade eternal human souls for short term political gain. It’s wrong.

[Springfield Reformer]

I understand what you’re saying, but remember this: Elisha was wrong for thinking all Israel was lost and he was the last of the faithful. I have no doubt that God has again reserved for himself a faithful remnant who will not bend the knee to these new false gods of our time. I just hope it’s a lot more than 7000.

Peace,

SR

[Hardraade]

Yeah well, at the time, Hubbard was also getting his rope shortened by swindling the VA and not very successfully so he needed money.

Later on, the muslims picked up many lawfare tricks from his “church”.

[driftdiver]

If you can’t write a coherent sentence please don’t post to me.

[driftdiver]

Once again your hate blinds you. Divisiveness doesn’t lead people to salvation.

If Mr Graham said that Mormonism wasn’t a cult I wouldn’t support him. Thats not what he said.

Take the rest of your hyperbole and trying thinking for a change. Billy Graham has led more people to God then you have ever even met.

[driftdiver]

Picking your battles helps win the war.

[driftdiver]

Doesn’t make it correct either.