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To: what's up; stanne

We’ll have to agree to disagree somewhat. One of the reasons I think Romney was so effective in the first debate is he was able to rebut every single Obama argument with facts - and he wasn’t afraid to make sure he got the last word in, even if it meant using time at the beginning of the next question response. Romney obviously has alot of experience and practice, though.

I do think that Ryan did pretty well and most of the polls show that. I just think he could have been more agressive in making sure he got his message out and that he could have done so in a manner that would not have been off-putting or obnoxious.


41 posted on 10/15/2012 8:54:59 PM PDT by PAR
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To: PAR
One of the reasons I think Romney was so effective in the first debate

Romney was debating a passive Obama.

Ryan wasn't debating a passive Biden. Different strategy required.

Have a great nite.

44 posted on 10/15/2012 8:59:16 PM PDT by what's up
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To: PAR

I know. My thinking, though, is that as a vice presidential debate, Ryan was there in a very different capacity. I think his mission was to not screw up, look mature and aware of the issues, and maintain emotional cool and virtue.

This goes a long way when dealing with a master of emoting like Biden. Liberals live in emotion. they say “don’t you feel that. . .”, I feel that. . .”. No joke, they feel instead of think.

In that arena, Ryan’s ideas will come across as blah blah blah. And he’ll have his chance, in fact more so if he carries out his mission effectively.

When and if he’s up there at the top of the ticket, then I agree with your point.

Biden was in charge of that debate. He is 27 years his senior and has many more years of smarmy tactics.

Biden was clocked because Ryan beat him in the emotions game. Women fell for the sane, sensitive, virtue guy and dumped the wacky middle age crisis bad comb over (plugs) guy with the adolescent attitude.

Biden’s thinking, hey, it always worked before. . .?


47 posted on 10/15/2012 9:11:32 PM PDT by stanne
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