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Presidential Contest Tight Nationally Ahead Of Second Debate [WaPo/ABC: Obama 49%; Romney 46%]
Washington Post ^ | October 14, 2012

Posted on 10/14/2012 10:00:31 PM PDT by Steelfish

Presidential Contest Tight Nationally Ahead Of Second Debate

Dan Balz and Jon Cohen October 14

On the eve of their second debate, President Obama and challenger Mitt Romney remain locked in a virtual dead heat nationally, with Republicans showing increased enthusiasm for their nominee after his big win in the first debate, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Likely voters in the new poll split 49 percent for Obama to 46 percent for Romney, basically unmoved from the poll two weeks ago, just before the two candidates met in Denver for their first debate. On topic after topic, the survey portrays an electorate that remains deeply divided along partisan lines and locked in its views.

Nearly two-thirds say they do not need any more information before Election Day, and barely one in eight is undecided or says there is a chance he could change his vote. Even as voters overwhelmingly perceive that Romney won the first debate, the vast majority say their opinion of the president did not shift as a result.

But more people changed their views of Romney, largely in a positive direction. Overall, more than twice as many say their opinions of the former Massachusetts governor improved than say they worsened as a result of the debate. The strongest reaction is among Romney backers, 70 percent of whom say Denver made them think more highly of the GOP nominee.

The improvement in views of Romney carries directly into the underpinnings of his support: Fewer of his supporters now express anxiety about a Romney administration, and the number of his backers saying they support him “very enthusiastically” jumped by double digits. Among the likely voters supporting Romney, 62 percent now do so intensely, exactly double the number who were eagerly lined up behind Republican nominee...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls
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To: Salamander
No.

The punctuation, and even the indentation, were also all lies.

41 posted on 10/15/2012 3:27:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Steelfish

Folks, this is a +9 Dem sample. Romney is winning this, big, barring a major meltdown.


42 posted on 10/15/2012 3:38:13 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Steelfish
You're right. We here at FR analyze EVERY poll in light of party samples. This one points to a big Romney victory. Romney according to this, Gallup, and Ras now with a correct sample all have Romney up 3-4. Thanks for posting more proof.

BTW, Ohio universally does 1/2 point better for Rs than the nation as a whole so this reaffirms that Romney wins OH.

43 posted on 10/15/2012 3:43:30 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Steelfish
You're right. We here at FR analyze EVERY poll in light of party samples. This one points to a big Romney victory. Romney according to this, Gallup, and Ras now with a correct sample all have Romney up 3-4. Thanks for posting more proof.

BTW, Ohio universally does 1/2 point better for Rs than the nation as a whole so this reaffirms that Romney wins OH.

44 posted on 10/15/2012 3:43:48 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Mike Darancette; Steelfish

“This is not Steelfish’s poll” -— and it isn’t the WaPo’s poll either. It is WaPo propaganda designed to prop up Obama’s corporate donors so they don’t bail.


45 posted on 10/15/2012 3:48:34 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Steelfish

Here you go troll

The party identification in the survey is D +9 (Dem 35, Rep 26, Ind 33). This compares to 2008 when party ID was D +7 (Dem 39, Rep 32, Ind 29) and 2004 when party ID split evenly (Dem 37, Rep 37, Ind 26).


46 posted on 10/15/2012 4:10:25 AM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: Lazamataz

ee cummings wept


47 posted on 10/15/2012 4:34:34 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Steelfish
This is a D+9 poll and the LSM is happy to hype the result. Imagine how they'd react to an R+9 poll....they would be writhing on the floor, biting the fingers while screaming....."This poll is not fair to the democrats".

Sauce, goose, gander.

48 posted on 10/15/2012 5:24:57 AM PDT by JPG (Make it happen)
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To: Steelfish

I happen to think that R/R has a good shot at pulling this off. But the race is close and the polls are swinging wildly within their margins of error so you are going to see lots of outliers in either direction. If the actual numbers are 47%-47% then given a margin of error of 3% a result of 50%-44% (either way) would still be within the margin of error. I believe that some polls are using this statistical fact to skew their results.

You have to watch the trend and right now it is trending R/R. I predict Obama will only get his 47% come election day.


49 posted on 10/15/2012 5:25:32 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Take two Aspirin and call me in November - Obama for Hindmost.)
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To: Chunga

Dems - 34% + 15
Reps - 25% + 21
Ind - 36%


Quick math tells you Romney is ACTUALLY winning indies by a ratio of 7 to 5, or 16 % points!

Nice internals for Romney.


50 posted on 10/15/2012 5:47:31 AM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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To: Steelfish

“In this case the “evil” of course is negative views.”

This is not negative news. It’s a biased poll.

This creates a negative impression even when its misleading, like adding to RCP poll averages. Big diff.


51 posted on 10/15/2012 5:49:36 AM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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To: Salamander

I love you.


52 posted on 10/15/2012 5:51:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Lazamataz

I love you too, Laz.

:)


53 posted on 10/15/2012 7:05:38 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Perdogg

You need eyeball surgery since your lens is colored permanently with a rose tint. Folks like you are of little use where you simply dissect the internals when things aren’t going our way and happily accept the same poll when they show Romney in the lead. These are the same characteristics and cohorts of internals that WaPo and ABC have been using since Reagan. The same goes for Gallup (that Drudge displays on his front page) and Rasmussen. If the party ID is +9 Dems, so what? This is the reality of the national electorate.


54 posted on 10/15/2012 8:17:31 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

OK...hope you are supporting R+R as strongly as I am.
PEACE!


55 posted on 10/15/2012 4:39:29 PM PDT by entropy12 (Romney/Ryan 2012... Send Obama back to Chicago/Hawaii/Kenya/Indonesia wherever)
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To: entropy12

The current trash in the White House needs to be hauled away. Period.


56 posted on 10/15/2012 5:48:21 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
I was about to make an amend to you and state you are not a troll, but this post gives me pause. At this point in the game, it is wise to be realistic about Romney, but we also simply need Obama gone. R&R are the only people poised to do that.

I won't go as far as to say that not voting for R&R is voting for Obama -- that's bullcrap and I hated when people played that s**t on me -- but there are also indicators that R&R are not as bad as initially thought.

57 posted on 10/16/2012 7:21:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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