Posted on 10/14/2012 10:00:31 PM PDT by Steelfish
Presidential Contest Tight Nationally Ahead Of Second Debate
Dan Balz and Jon Cohen October 14
On the eve of their second debate, President Obama and challenger Mitt Romney remain locked in a virtual dead heat nationally, with Republicans showing increased enthusiasm for their nominee after his big win in the first debate, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
Likely voters in the new poll split 49 percent for Obama to 46 percent for Romney, basically unmoved from the poll two weeks ago, just before the two candidates met in Denver for their first debate. On topic after topic, the survey portrays an electorate that remains deeply divided along partisan lines and locked in its views.
Nearly two-thirds say they do not need any more information before Election Day, and barely one in eight is undecided or says there is a chance he could change his vote. Even as voters overwhelmingly perceive that Romney won the first debate, the vast majority say their opinion of the president did not shift as a result.
But more people changed their views of Romney, largely in a positive direction. Overall, more than twice as many say their opinions of the former Massachusetts governor improved than say they worsened as a result of the debate. The strongest reaction is among Romney backers, 70 percent of whom say Denver made them think more highly of the GOP nominee.
The improvement in views of Romney carries directly into the underpinnings of his support: Fewer of his supporters now express anxiety about a Romney administration, and the number of his backers saying they support him very enthusiastically jumped by double digits. Among the likely voters supporting Romney, 62 percent now do so intensely, exactly double the number who were eagerly lined up behind Republican nominee...
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The punctuation, and even the indentation, were also all lies.
Folks, this is a +9 Dem sample. Romney is winning this, big, barring a major meltdown.
BTW, Ohio universally does 1/2 point better for Rs than the nation as a whole so this reaffirms that Romney wins OH.
BTW, Ohio universally does 1/2 point better for Rs than the nation as a whole so this reaffirms that Romney wins OH.
“This is not Steelfish’s poll” -— and it isn’t the WaPo’s poll either. It is WaPo propaganda designed to prop up Obama’s corporate donors so they don’t bail.
Here you go troll
The party identification in the survey is D +9 (Dem 35, Rep 26, Ind 33). This compares to 2008 when party ID was D +7 (Dem 39, Rep 32, Ind 29) and 2004 when party ID split evenly (Dem 37, Rep 37, Ind 26).
ee cummings wept
Sauce, goose, gander.
I happen to think that R/R has a good shot at pulling this off. But the race is close and the polls are swinging wildly within their margins of error so you are going to see lots of outliers in either direction. If the actual numbers are 47%-47% then given a margin of error of 3% a result of 50%-44% (either way) would still be within the margin of error. I believe that some polls are using this statistical fact to skew their results.
You have to watch the trend and right now it is trending R/R. I predict Obama will only get his 47% come election day.
Dems - 34% + 15
Reps - 25% + 21
Ind - 36%
Quick math tells you Romney is ACTUALLY winning indies by a ratio of 7 to 5, or 16 % points!
Nice internals for Romney.
“In this case the evil of course is negative views.”
This is not negative news. It’s a biased poll.
This creates a negative impression even when its misleading, like adding to RCP poll averages. Big diff.
I love you.
I love you too, Laz.
:)
You need eyeball surgery since your lens is colored permanently with a rose tint. Folks like you are of little use where you simply dissect the internals when things aren’t going our way and happily accept the same poll when they show Romney in the lead. These are the same characteristics and cohorts of internals that WaPo and ABC have been using since Reagan. The same goes for Gallup (that Drudge displays on his front page) and Rasmussen. If the party ID is +9 Dems, so what? This is the reality of the national electorate.
OK...hope you are supporting R+R as strongly as I am.
PEACE!
The current trash in the White House needs to be hauled away. Period.
I won't go as far as to say that not voting for R&R is voting for Obama -- that's bullcrap and I hated when people played that s**t on me -- but there are also indicators that R&R are not as bad as initially thought.
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