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To: Fast Moving Angel

Even if the pretended confederacy was valid, which it was not, Lincoln’s soldiers would be killing soldiers of the other country, by contrast, Lee’s soldiers would be killing citizens of the US. So aside from the occasional friendly fire, or the very many deaths from disease, Lincoln was not responsible for, even by the most rabid interpretation in favor of the rebels, killing Americans.

So, do you agree that the Confederacy had no validity?


225 posted on 10/21/2012 1:49:48 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker
Even if the pretended confederacy was valid, which it was not, Lincoln’s soldiers would be killing soldiers of the other country, by contrast, Lee’s soldiers would be killing citizens of the US. So aside from the occasional friendly fire, or the very many deaths from disease, Lincoln was not responsible for, even by the most rabid interpretation in favor of the rebels, killing Americans.

So, do you agree that the Confederacy had no validity?

Sorry, can’t agree with you. By Confederacy, do you mean the Confederate government or the association of seceded states? The seceded states had every right to secede for reasons I’ve explained previously and the Confederate government was what they chose – by mutual consent of the governed – to govern themselves. Either way, the Confederacy (whether the states or their chosen government) was valid.

As to the issue regarding killing of each others’ soldiers, I think it is analogous to the issue of Lincoln blockading Southern ports. Lincoln could not legally blockade his OWN country’s ports – yet in order to blockade Southern ports, it was necessary for him to officially recognize the Confederacy (of seceded states) as a separate country, which he was not willing to do – he considered them American states in rebellion. So, he illegally blockaded the ports. Under this analogy, since Lincoln did not officially recognize the Confederacy, the southern soldiers who were being killed were Americans (although rebels). If he had recognized the Confederacy, technically I suppose they would be considered from “another country” – but this was not the case.

Lincoln could have avoided all this by letting the “wayward sisters go in peace.” I suspect that had that been the case, after a while, one or more of the seceding states, particularly the border states, would have petitioned to rejoin the Union and much of this would have been moot anyway. But after such atrocities as Sherman’s destruction of Atlanta and Sheridan’s destruction of the Shenandoah Valley, not to mention “reconstruction”, the southern wounds were just too deep and an amicable reuniting wouldn’t be possible. Read some of the southern-oriented pages on Facebook sometime; those scars are still being carried by the southern soldiers’ descendants to this day. Forgiveness may be possible, but they won’t forget.

226 posted on 10/21/2012 5:10:24 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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