Posted on 10/05/2012 1:18:09 PM PDT by pgyanke
“No. 1,” declared Mitt Romney in Wednesday’s debate, “pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan.” No, they aren’t — as Mr. Romney’s own advisers have conceded in the past, and did again after the debate.
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Oh heck. The New York Slimes written by Krugman.
I understand the bias. However, the guy who sent this to me is a fence-sitter who is trying to make heads and tails of the MSM spin. Unfortunately, I don’t know the facts on this one by myself to help explain. Can you?
NY Times, Are you going to listen to Romney or some staffer? I know, whatever fits your agenda.
“pre-existing conditions” is not a legitimate concern for any President.
It normally takes about 24-48 hours for a conservative economist to demolish Krugman. I’ll keep an eye out for you.
Krugman is, like the liberal he is, saying insurance companies should give everyone from 18 a policy covering pre-existing solution. He says “ But it’s not what anyone in real life means by having a health plan that covers pre-existing conditions, “ -— phooey, he speaks for himself.
I agree. I don’t want the government involved in my healthcare at all... but they are there. The question at hand is whether or not Romney was truthful... do you know his plan?
Depends on the meaning of ‘plan’. Romney recently stated that he wants to repeal Zerocare and replace it with a plan that does include preexisting condition coverage.
Has Krugman reopened the comments/discussion of his column? Iirc he shut it down because too many of the unwashed masses were too effective in challenging what hecwas writing, making him look bad and hurting his frail and sensitive ego.
I don’t know about pre-existing and it would be interesting to find out but regardless of the answer I’m voting Romney. Does your friend know what zero already signed into law?
From a George Will column:
Late in the debate, when Romney for a third time referred to Obamacare’s creation of “an unelected board, appointed board, who are going to decide what kind of [medical] treatment you ought to have,” Obama said, “No, it isn’t.” Oh?
The Independent Payment Advisory Board perfectly illustrates liberalism’s itch to remove choices from individuals, and from their elected representatives, and to repose the power to choose in supposed experts liberated from democratic accountability. Beginning in 2014, IPAB would consist of 15 unelected technocrats whose recommendations for reducing Medicare costs must be enacted by Congress by Aug. 15 of each year. If Congress does not enact them, or other measures achieving the same level of cost containment, IPAB’s proposals automatically are transformed from recommendations into law. Without being approved by Congress. Without being signed by the president.
These facts refute Obama’s Denver assurance that IPAB “can’t make decisions about what treatments are given.” It can and will by controlling payments to doctors and hospitals. Hence the emptiness of Obamacare’s language that IPAB’s proposals “shall not include any recommendation to ration health care.”
By Obamacare’s terms, Congress can repeal IPAB only during a seven-month window in 2017, and then only by three-fifths majorities in both chambers. After that, the law precludes Congress from ever altering IPAB proposals.
Because IPAB effectively makes law, thereby traducing the separation of powers, and entrenches IPAB in a manner that derogates the powers of future Congresses, it has been well described by a Cato Institute study as “the most anti-constitutional measure ever to pass Congress.” But unless and until the Supreme Court — an unreliable guardian — overturns it, IPAB is a harbinger of the “shock and awe statism” (Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels’s phrase) that is liberalism’s prescription for curing the problems supposedly caused by insufficient statism.
Only when Unicorns start pooping Skittles will covering pre-exiting conditions make sense.
Don’t carry homeowners insurance until your house burns down then call Allstate to insure it and expect to get paid. What do you think the agent will say?
Don’t carry car insurance and crash your car into another causing injuries and then call State Farm to insure it and cover your loss. What do you think the agent will say.
With the same logic, doctors should not waste their money carrying malpractice insurance until they cause the death of someone then they can pick up coverage and get that claim covered.
How about none of us pay into Kenyan CommieCare until we get sick? For that matter maybe we should all register as democrats, not pay our taxes and we can become head of the Treasury or maybe a US Representative.
Here’s the most honest answer I could find.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/329568/no-romney-didnt-tell-lie-after-lie-debate-katrina-trinko
This does worry me. My son, daughter and I all have PECs. It is a serious problem. IMHO, Republicans’ failure to address these issues (also healthcare for college-age people) is what drove the nation into accepting Obamacare.
Healthcare issues have driven ALL of my children’s first life-choices. More than money, desire for a family, everything.
Yes, under Romney’s plan, pre-existing conditions are covered, PROVIDED that you had health insurance in the first place.
Thus, if you have a significant condition and change insurance companies, the new insurance agency must cover you.
I believe it’s called “continuance”. Many states already require this for people who switch employers.
This differs from Obama’s plan, where you do not need to have insurance in the first place. Under Obama’s plan, people will not need to get insurance UNTIL they have a serious health issue. The result is that insurance companies will quickly go out of business.
Tell him if he is a moron to go ahead and vote for Obama. It seems he is leaning Obama anyway or he wouldn’t even be asking this stupid question.
Truthful. A plan can be anything you want it to be.
Too late - comments closed. How convenient for Krugman...
Romney pretending to be a conservative is sick enough!
Sorry. America has not accepted Obamacare.
Nice try, though...
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