Posted on 10/01/2012 8:04:49 AM PDT by marktwain
They found an antique Russian Smith and Wesson 44 revolver wrapped in a blanket in the child’s cot near where he was sleeping on a bed.
The gun was loaded and fully operational. Alongside it officers also found a machete.
Mr Arif, aged 42, was arrested nearby and charged with possession of a firearm.
At first, he denied all knowledge of the weapons, saying they had been put there by someone else, but forensic experts recovered his DNA from the trigger guard and the ammunition in the chamber, proving that he had handled the firearm.
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Imperial Russian contract, from the Tsarist era.
On the other hand, something strange seems to be going on here, what with the machete and all, and I can't get all that worked up about sending this guy to prison.
In fact, I'd have thought they would have suspended his sentence because his name is Mohammed. Who knows, maybe they will?
maybe the baby had a concealed carry permit. oh wait this is britainastan where law abiding citizens + targets for criminals.
***LOL, a “Russian” S&W? I must have missed something or didn’t read that right.***
S&W had a contract to build pistols for the Russians way before 1917. The same as Remington built Mosin Nagant rifles for them.
http://www.russianrevolvers.com/sw_first_contract.html
http://www.mosinnagant.net/ussr/US-Mosin-Nagants.asp
those models...I have one...shoots 205 grain cowboy BP loads
are double action
if this was truly an infant and it was wrapped in a blanket
not much danger in my opinion
not a great idea but in UK they love to give gun court time out
here they are worth 5-600 and up..way up for some
mine is cherry..shoots a lot of lead at low recoil and velocity
you can buy them without any paperwork...pre 1899 black powder
the Remington Mosins have about a double price added value over the others as a rule
Muggings and killings of the common people does not threaten the security of the State. Possession of firearms, does.
Bears repeating. Excellent post.
“Each of those six bullets could have killed someone.”
After killing six people, he could’ve then killed both the woman and child by beating them over the had with the butt of the empty gun. And then he could’ve thrown the gun at the dog, striking it with sufficient force to kill it. And then, when the unarmed bobbies arrived and wrestled him to the floor, he could’ve sneezed on them, transmitting flu germs that could ultimately kill the coppers. He could also cuss out the innocent bystanders, calling them vile and horrific names which would probably lead them to commit suicide over the emotional abuse he heaped on them.
Because sadly the scumbag was convicted of death by dangerous driving, which still (and it needs to be harsher) is a lower sentence than murder or even manslaughter, because you can be convicted of it if your actions were stupid and/or negligent, but not deliberate. IE you took your eyes off the road to adjust a car radio, look at your mobile.
Years ago in WA this woman was changing CD’s while driving. Took out three kids (killed). Got something like 4 years in Purdy (women’s prison). For whatever reason the governor paroled her after two. BTW - a republican one, but then there’s Huckabee releasing that murderer to come to WA and killed four LEO’s.
PS - so like an infant can pick up the gun and pull the trigger? Is there more to this story?
Depends on what the charge is. And actually the vast majority of British thugs and murderers/killers DO get more than 6 yrs. Its the few that dont that get the headlines.
I agree we have bad judges just like you. I agree that we dont bang them away for long enough in some cases. We used to.
As I have said, the idea that most UK rapists and/or killers dont get six years is not true. A minority get light sentences, and as I said it depends on the charge and the circumstance under which someone dies. Rapists/sexual abusers get 7-10+ in most cases. Some of course get life sentences, as of course do some killers.
The information that the gun was in the same room as an infant is just sensationalist nonsense. It has no real relevance to the story.
It is just a generic bit of hoplophobia that has become part of British culture. It is not logical. It is emotional.
So was he like jailed for six years because he had an illegally owned gun or was it because the gun was in the same room as the infant? Brits unfortunately are ruled by morons. Do a hit and run and kill a kid, jail time is like four years and out early for good behavior.
I do not know what the exact charges were. However, it is illegal for him to have the gun without a license, and licenses for pistols are impossible to get in the U.K., so that is one charge.
There are also very strict storage requirements, so that guns must be locked up and unloaded, so those are a couple of other potential charges.
It is possible that a hoplophobic judge in the UK might say that he is guilty of child endangerment... I do not know about that.
When the anti-freedom types aim to impose "reasonable" gun restrictions, they always include provisions to make self defense with a gun illegal. If self defense with a gun were considered legitimate, the storage requirements would not stand up in court, because it is obvious to anyone that an unloaded gun locked up is not very useful for self defense.
One of the most important and crutial points of the Heller decision was that because Americans have a right to self defense, they have a right to immediate access to loaded handguns in their home.
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