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Ryder Cup 2012: Europe beat USA after record comeback
BBC Sport ^ | 1st October 2012 | Tom Fordyce

Posted on 09/30/2012 5:42:19 PM PDT by the scotsman

'Europe's golfers produced a stunning final-day comeback to win the Ryder Cup at a shell-shocked Medinah.

With the United States requiring only four points from the 12 on offer, Europe somehow secured eight and a half to clinch a historic 14½-13½ win.

Martin Kaymer sank a five-foot putt on the 18th green to get his team to the 14 points needed to retain the trophy, before a Tiger Woods bogey in the final match gifted them overall victory.

The win matches the record recovery of Ben Crenshaw's US team in Boston in 1999 and is the best from a European side in the Ryder Cup.

It was a fitting tribute to the late Seve Ballesteros, the man who did so much to reinvigorate the competition and whose trademark colours the side wore on the final day.'

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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To: the scotsman

Epic USA choke.


21 posted on 09/30/2012 6:09:36 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: the scotsman

The U.S. led 10 to 6 at yesterday’s close, after all the matches with two players from each team.

Today, in the singles matches the U.S. won just three more while the Europeans won eight, giving the Europeans a 14 to 13 lead, before the close of the last match - Tiger Woods vs F. Molinari.

Before the 18th hole, Tiger was “1 Up” over Molinari. Molinari won the 18th hole, and so each was awarded “1/2”, making the final team scores 14 1/2 for Europe and 13 1/2 for the U.S.

What I don’t understand about the rules was they kept repeating (the TV nnoucners), that even if Tiger managed to win the 18th hole, making the U.S. team score of 14 wins, that the rules would still reward the cup to Europe.

Maybe someone can tell me why the outcome would not have been different if Tiger had won the 8th hole in the last match, converting his “1 up” score to “2 up” and a clear win of his match with Molinari. I’m guessing there are no “tie breakers” in the Ryder Cup, and whoever gets the magic 14+ wins first is the winner?

Does anyone know why Europe had won the cup, once they had 14 wins, and whether not a win by Tiger would have made it 14 wins for the U.S.?


22 posted on 09/30/2012 6:10:00 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: dfwgator

Tiger shot 5 under on the back nine in both fourball matches. That is not really bad. If Stricker had given him any help, they could have won.


23 posted on 09/30/2012 6:10:16 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Wuli

The Europeans are the current holders of the cup. In the case of a tie, they retain it. You have to beat the cup holder outright to take it away.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 6:12:13 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: the scotsman; All

Wonder if we will hear our politically correct sports media kiss Tiger’s behind, like they always do

Tired of all the golf coverage. It is a game, not a sport. Carry your own clubs


25 posted on 09/30/2012 6:12:42 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Wuli

Defending champ only needs 14.


26 posted on 09/30/2012 6:13:21 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Mean Maryjean
Dittos. Well played by the Euros who never quit. I'd have rather a win by our guys, most of whom I like, but a thrilling suspenseful show is foremost. This was all that and more. Wow. 5 hours on the edge of my seat, hoping one of our guys would rise to the occasion, but few did.

Then, out here in the West we had the undefeated Cardiac Cards pulling off more miracles. I can't take much more of this.

27 posted on 09/30/2012 6:17:56 PM PDT by chiller (First check the poll's Dem/Rep/Ind sampling numbers, then re-think.)
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To: M-cubed

Yup, Furyk can’t handle pressure at all./s
16 tour wins. $52,000,000. in career earnings.
Golf much?


28 posted on 09/30/2012 6:27:21 PM PDT by bramps
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To: proxy_user

“The Europeans are the current holders of the cup. In the case of a tie, they retain it. You have to beat the cup holder outright to take it away.”

Thanks. I never heard the NBC announcers repeat that simple rule - I just keep hearing them say Europe would win the cup as soon as they had 14 wins, no matter what happened in any unfinished matches.

You should have been in the announcers booth.


29 posted on 09/30/2012 6:32:25 PM PDT by Wuli
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NOT including this years Ryder Cup

Most LOSSES for USA in Ryder Cup competition?

Phil Mickelson, 17
Raymond Floyd, 16
Jim Furyk, 15
Tiger Woods, 14
Davis Love III, 12
Curtis Strange, 12
Lanny Wadkins, 11


30 posted on 09/30/2012 6:37:09 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: scbison

The only collapse greater, is what the Texas Rangers are about to do.


31 posted on 09/30/2012 6:58:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: bramps

Golf much? <<

LMAO....evidently more then you if u can’t recognize the “yips”


32 posted on 09/30/2012 7:02:49 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: SeminoleCounty
carry your own damned clubs!...LMAO...Now that's classic!
33 posted on 09/30/2012 7:13:53 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: dfwgator

Stricker deserves more blame, IMO; but both were disappointing. I don’t think the USA will win the cup again any time soon. I doubt I’ll watch it next time.


34 posted on 09/30/2012 7:22:30 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: dfwgator
Nah, they held on...actually hoping for this tomorrow...


35 posted on 09/30/2012 7:28:57 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Tired of all the golf coverage.

Odd, therefore, that you affirmatively sought out a thread (on golf) to express such sentiments.

Grow up. Mature, stable adults don't "level."

36 posted on 09/30/2012 7:33:32 PM PDT by DSH
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To: dfwgator
The loss is on Tiger....he was the only one that sucked while the US got their big lead.

If you watched the matches, Tiger gets a B, Stricker gets an F.

In 4 ball, Stricker and Woods played together twice and lost both matches 1 up with Woods getting 13 birdies in 2 matches and Stricker getting 1 eagle and 1 birdie in 2 matches. Stricker was 0-4. Woods was 0-3-1. The real problem was Woods got stuck with Stricker for 3 pairings.

Ok, maybe Woods should have gotten 17 birdies in 2 matches and then Woods would be 2-1-1 and Stricker would have been 2-2-0.

37 posted on 09/30/2012 9:21:22 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: the scotsman

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/rydercup/9577684/Ryder-Cup-2012-Investigation-after-American-fans-abuse-Europes-players-wives-and-late-captain-Seve-Ballesteros.html


38 posted on 09/30/2012 10:36:03 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: proxy_user
Tiger shot 5 under on the back nine in both fourball matches.

Yes, but where was he on the front nine? All over the place and his birdies on the back nine were too little too late.

Tiger's contribution: Wins 0, Losses 3, Ties 1.

And you say that is really not bad? Puhleese!

39 posted on 10/01/2012 12:07:10 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: M-cubed
but he[Furyk] just cant handle pressure well...

One of my friends said that 5-Hour Energy just makes you bald.

40 posted on 10/01/2012 9:14:59 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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