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Today’s ‘palliative care’ disrespects the natural law
Celebrate Life Magazine ^
| September-October 2012
| Elizabeth D. Wickham, PhD
Posted on 09/30/2012 3:19:54 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: humblegunner
The proper title for a Podiatrist is “Doctor” so what are you yammering about?
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posted on
09/30/2012 10:11:07 PM PDT
by
lastchance
("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
That is exactly what happened.
A vital topic, great article, with important comments by several people with their own experiences.
And derailed, defiled, and now hidden from view, all because of one person.
Disgusting.
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posted on
09/30/2012 10:19:21 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Thank goodness, it’s back in the News Forum with the objectionable comments pulled.
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posted on
09/30/2012 10:21:11 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Vermont Lt
There is a difference between hospice and palliative care. The original article specifically deals with palliative care. There are many wonderful hospices and many angels of mercy working within both hospice and palliative care but there are also ethical lapses in both fields.
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posted on
09/30/2012 10:34:25 PM PDT
by
Brian Kopp DPM
(Sin Makes You Stupid.)
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I am increasingly of the mind that medical people in the US are losing the trust of their patients, because of the
dilution in some cases complete disregard of their Hippocratic oath.
Fixed it for you
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posted on
10/01/2012 2:14:58 AM PDT
by
verga
(Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I believed that the increasing doses of morphine were the REAL cause of death of my best friend in 1985, after a long and tragic fight against cancer.
The nurses at the hospital told us before we left for the night (which I did not want to do) the precise time her death would occur.
I have been sickened by this realization which I did not catch on to for a very long time, because of my frantic sorrow at that time, just as I have been bereft that I had to leave her there with noone ... because I was in a strange city in a different state, having been called by her husband as she had wanted me with her, and in the fog of that city, I was with people who never knew her as I had and they chose to go and wait in some kind of vigil at her house.
I could not join them and chose being alone. Besides the sudden death of my husband, nothing has affected me as deeply as that knowledge, that she was "palliatively" KILLED!
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posted on
10/01/2012 5:27:49 AM PDT
by
AKA Elena
(St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle! Please PRAY daily for the USA!)
To: verga
Many med schools do not administer the Hippocratic Oath. Of those that do many use a modernistic version bereft of any traditional medical ethics references.
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posted on
10/01/2012 6:49:26 AM PDT
by
Brian Kopp DPM
(Sin Makes You Stupid.)
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posted on
10/01/2012 8:05:26 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Many med schools do not administer the Hippocratic Oath. Of those that do many use a modernistic version bereft of any traditional medical ethics references.Okay that is just completely disturbing
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posted on
10/01/2012 8:24:31 AM PDT
by
verga
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To: jacquej; grannyheart2000; AKA Elena
Sincere thanks to all of you for sharing your very personal accounts of the passing away of loved ones. Each person’s experiences add to the knowledge of how to support those who are close to death, and care for the ones doing the support.
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posted on
10/01/2012 6:24:23 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
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posted on
10/03/2012 3:33:41 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: little jeremiah
Modern society in four words ;-)
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posted on
10/03/2012 5:14:23 PM PDT
by
Brian Kopp DPM
(Sin Makes You Stupid.)
To: Vermont Lt
go through a Catholic hospice and you will be sure that their palliative care is in alignment with the Catholic churchs guidance.That was not my experience. Not at all.
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posted on
10/03/2012 5:21:58 PM PDT
by
ladyjane
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
To: grannyheart2000
I have had a number of people tell me that their family member was put to sleep with morphine in the same sort of scenerio and the family member feels terribly guilty and bad. Nurses tend to like to put patients to sleep. I would never leave an older person alone with a nurse. Always have family or private care nurse there.
There is no reason to put an unconscious person on morphine except to hasten death.
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posted on
10/03/2012 5:43:38 PM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(STOP The Great O-ppression)
To: Chickensoup
That happened to my mother, under hospice care while at home. I was only one family member out of many, and could not influence anything. I did not realize at the time 100% what was happening, but knew somethings was Terribly Wrong.
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posted on
10/03/2012 8:24:44 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: ladyjane
I am sorry to hear that. My wife works at a catholic hospital and we’ve used their hospice services for elderly relatives. They were in nursing homes, so that might make a difference.
The care we received for our loved ones was superb. They allowed them to pass without pain, and adhering to their wishes regarding their final days.
I wish everyone that has to go through this, had the experience we had.
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posted on
10/03/2012 9:48:16 PM PDT
by
Vermont Lt
(I am NOT from Vermont. I am from MA. And I don't support Romney. Please read before "assuming.")
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