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Posted on 09/27/2012 9:45:53 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
That theory was blown away by Onaka’s confirmation that Obama does NOT have a legally valid Hawaii birth certificate.
Alvin Onaka was legally required to verify specifically - if he “knew” (that is, if there was legally-sufficient evidence to support the claims) that Barack Hussein Obama, II, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu on the island of Oahu to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama.
He did not verify any of those things.
Hawaii does NOT “know” any of those facts. And Obama’s forgery was made to appear that they do know those facts. That is precisely why forgeries are made.
I postulate that sometime in Obama's disjointed history he spent time in a KGB style "Charm School" or something like it.
There is an audio of a debate on this (unknown) guys website. He gets hammered by real, published Adobe experts and others.
I hope this fraud was paid well. His book is a laughing stock. He was offering for free from his site. So yes, I read it. It was joke. Worse than a joke - it was fraud with a capital F.
The discovery of Obama’s born-in-Kenya biography at the New York literary agency Dystel & Goderich for 16 years confirmed that there is a legitimate question about Obama’s eligibility and people wanting answers to that question cannot be dismissed as “birthers.”
I can't find the reference/source of the denial. Could you please provide?
Here are some links that relate:
http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf
http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/wheel-of-fortune-v-family-feud-final.pdf
http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/hdoh-did-not-verify-what-kansas-requested/
I had a discussion with the legal department of NE SOS John Gale this morning, and his original argument was that Ken Bennett had not even requested verification of Obama’s gender, date of birth, city of birth, island of birth, mother’s name, or father’s name. When he had to acknowledge that those things WERE requested, he said he had no way of knowing whether Onaka responded correctly. I said the presumption of regularity says you legally presume that he did, unless you have evidence otherwise. Ultimately he said he doesn’t have to care what Hawaii said to Arizona and even if Bob Bauer, Villaigarosa, and Germond were all sent to jail for perjury and election fraud for submitting that Certification of Nomination, Nebraska law would STILL require the SOS to put the candidate’s name on the ballot - and he would not be required to report any suspected perjury or election fraud.
The more I see of these government critters, the more I realize that we need a total overhaul of our laws. Nebraska’s law, for instance, at the very least, has to be revised so that everywhere a document is required it is stipulated that it must be a LAWFUL document, what constitutes non-lawful documents, who is reponsible to check whether it is lawful and when, and what recourse the people have if that “public servant” is negligent in carrying out that duty. EVERY stinkin’ place a document is required. That’s a heckuva lot of code, but these weasels are going to worm-wriggle their way out of everything unless we pin them to that kind of legal accountability.
The discussion actually involved whether somebody could lawfully swear that Obama was eligible if all you saw was birthday cards from Grandma in Hawaii - whether that is an acceptable LEGAL standard of evidence. Seems to me that for legal purposes, legal standards are what apply - and if it would be terrible for a SOS (supposedly on a whim) to determine that Obama is not eligible, it would similarly be terrible for Bob Bauer, Antonio Villaigaroso, and Alic Travis Germond to decide (on a whim and knowing that Obama had already produced a forgery of an official document) that he IS.
Anyway, the legal dept of the NE SOS’s office disagrees with Klayman’s letter because Villaigarosa could have seen a birthday card from Obama’s grandmother that proves he was born in Hawaii on Aug 4, 1961, and that is good enough to certify the man who holds the nuclear football and has the power to set the Muslim world aflame against the US. The initial reason to blow off Klayman’s letter was because the actual application form - the subject of Klayman’s whole letter - was accidentally “overlooked”.
Sheesh.
Thanks for the post.
Just wanted to be sure I’m also counted as a confirmed “birther” in this thread. Hey, if Obama says something is true, you know he’s lying.
Absolute great comment. I’ve rarely heard such a succinct common sense statement on Obama’s rise to power.
Yeah, he has a valid birth certificate from Kenya.
Criminal forgery is pretty stupid for a diversion.
Hawaii has NOT taken ownership of that PDF file which has uses their certification stamps. FRAUD,FORGERY and a litany of other charges await.
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College Professors are known for their liberal tilt here in America. This man seems to be from Brazil. Does this tip the scale more to the right or left? Left I would think. Not only is he a College Professor, but one who is a citizen of a very socialist country.
Should his opinion be accepted at face value? I wouldn't. At least not without better explanations than he has provided. It's like accepting what the Media says at face value.
I happen to know something about computer graphics, image rendering, file formats and compression. (I grew up programing machine code in Hexadecimal .) I have yet to see what I consider to be a reasonable explanation for why different characters in the same word would be rendered in different bit depths and resolutions.
There is no mechanical process or algorithm of which I can conceive that would make this result a reasonable byproduct. Whatever process or algorithm that chose the bit depth and pixel resolution for the letter "A" should have chosen the same bit depth and pixel resolution for the letter "R".
Changing formats mid word accomplishes no useful benefit in terms of compression or clarity for the document. It produces no optimum effect. In fact, it destroys whatever benefit might be obtained from choosing one format or the other. (Clarity or Compressibility.) Why would any sanely written piece of software make such a decision?
What value or benefit can be obtained by mixing two different formats in the same word? That simply does not make any sense, and I have yet to hear from anyone explaining how it should make some sort of sense.
The linked website is home to an entire Democrat menagerie of Obama supporters. Just linking to it damages credibility in my opinion. It is an ally website of “Dr. Conspiracy”, an Obama supporting nut job. (aren’t they all?)
Squeeky Frome, (God what a fool!) is also prominently mentioned in the comments.
They put that forgery up on OUR government website (the people’s government...not Obastard’s....not the Demorat’s...the people’s government.
A government website owned by the people to be used to convey facts with legal weight, authority and credibility.
Diversion, my ass. It’s criminal.
There was only ONE PURPOSE for that image to be put on that website and that was to DEFRAUD the public.
Diversion, my ass. It’s criminal.
This is just plane BULL$HIT
I have done computer graphics and imaging software for a living.
Despite all the techno-jargon this guy has no clue what he is talking about.
I put no great significance on the man's age. 22 is old enough to have learned everything anyone needs to know about this sort of computer technology. Image rendering and compression is not all that difficult. I've got C code samples illustrating various compression formats, and it is not hard to understand what is being done and how it's being accomplished.
As a matter of fact, i've noticed that a lot of people with some age on them aren't always up on the latest stuff. The younger seem to be far more interested in making their mark on the world than do the already established types, and to accomplish this they study and contemplate what other people are doing contemporaneously.
In Computer technology, age is not necessarily indicative of expertise, or lack thereof.
I no longer post here but it must be said...I KNOW TIM SELATY Jr. PERSONALLY..
bein 22 years old has not a damned thing to do with a damned thing
Tim Selaty Jr is not smart , he is savant brilliant
That's addressed in the letter:
[The tools] first try to “lift” the text to another layer. They can find more than one type of text and place them in different layers. The rest is background and they compress with standard image compression methods. In the [Birth Certificate] I see lots of signs of that. It missed a lot of text, like the R in BARACK and in many other places.The point is that the software doesn't know "BARACK" is a word and should all be treated the same way--all it sees is a mix of pixels and makes its best guess as to which ones represent letters. In the case of the 'R', it guessed wrong.
From the beginning, such anomalies seemed to me to be the obvious artifacts of some kind of algorithmic processing. You ask "What value or benefit can be obtained by mixing two different formats in the same word?" The answer is, None--it's a processing error. But I ask, What process would lead a human forger to create letters in two different ways?
I'm not going to look them up for you.
The register stamp and date stamp were a safety feature to verify the authenticity of the document. But the fact that those stamps were IMPORTED FROM AN OUTSIDE SOURCE shows with certainty that it was fraudulent since those 'safety verification stamps were completely moveable to any point of the document.
It was not one single scan of a birth certificate. The stamps were imported. It is a composed computer file.
It doesn't "guess". It follows a process known as Optical character recognition. This is a relatively mature technology. I see no reason to believe that it cannot decode an "R" as well as it decodes the other letters.
From the beginning, such anomalies seemed to me to be the obvious artifacts of some kind of algorithmic processing. You ask "What value or benefit can be obtained by mixing two different formats in the same word?" The answer is, None--it's a processing error.
That is what people are saying, but my understanding of the technology involved does not lend itself to this sort of error. Even if it was an error, why render in a cruder format? The letter "A" is rendered in four times the pixel resolution of the "R".
But I ask, What process would lead a human forger to create letters in two different ways?
And that is an easy question to answer. The 50 States of the Union produce yearly 120,000 adoption birth certificates. These have to be created to look like an original birth certificate from the adopted child's birth year. Every state has a staff which creates these "fake" birth certificates, and they do it by cutting and pasting data from samples stored in their files.
Over the years, digital storage methods have changed and been updated, possibly several times. What was a digital file storage method for the State in 1987 might be changed to a very different storage method in 1995, or in 2007. Depending on what file is accessed, the source data may very well come from multiple files with different file formats. Since modern rendering software can seamlessly manipulate files stored in all past formats, an person cutting and pasting might not realize that they are grabbing a piece of a word in one format, and pasting it in the midst of a destination image which is mostly saved in a different format.
If you have multiple files open on your desktop, you may grab this piece from one, and that piece from another. When the document get's printed, all characters end up being in the same resolution and bit depth, so these sort of discontinuities will not be noticed on paper.
Why would they copy just one letter? How many birth certificates are likely to have the word "Barack" in them? One way or another, you are going to have to patch that word together from pieces elsewhere. (Assuming you are creating a replacement birth certificate for someone named "Barack".)
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